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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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First post2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
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  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 10:21 -0500
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 10:54 -0500
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 11:43 -0500
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 14:07 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 14:00 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 14:05 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 15:58 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-11 19:04 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-11 23:29 -0400
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-10 12:47 -0700
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 19:03 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-11 10:21 +1000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 21:54 +0000
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-11 12:48 +0000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 05:05 +1000
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-12 13:24 +0000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 04:27 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 14:12 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 06:51 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 21:47 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-12 22:53 -0500
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-13 17:46 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:16 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 10:17 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-15 04:48 +1000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:13 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 18:06 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 14:20 +1000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:28 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-13 10:54 -0500
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:15 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-13 23:01 -0700
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-14 04:18 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-12 19:38 -0700
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 12:20 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 21:45 +0100
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-13 13:43 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:30 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-14 07:00 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-14 12:50 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 09:13 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 04:31 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-14 16:35 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 07:58 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 08:14 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:16 +0200
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 10:12 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-15 17:48 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 11:51 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 16:03 +0200
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:01 +0100
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 19:29 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:13 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:12 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:39 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 11:54 +0000
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-15 06:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 14:55 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:05 +0100
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-16 12:54 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:27 +0100
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-16 14:49 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:43 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:12 +0100
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 11:21 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:02 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:08 -0700
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 11:04 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:45 -0700
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 18:02 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 12:50 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 07:33 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 10:11 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 13:53 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 18:08 -0700
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 21:34 -0400
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 21:15 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 19:17 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:30 -0400
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 15:36 -0400
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 16:27 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 17:25 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-17 07:11 -0500
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:58 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:35 +0200
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-18 13:19 +0000
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-18 09:58 -0700
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-18 10:25 -0700
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-19 16:29 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-18 19:43 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:36 -0500
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-19 10:06 +0100
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:14 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-16 13:40 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:52 -0700
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-18 11:46 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                  Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:02 +0100
                    Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0500
                      Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-15 19:50 -0700
                        Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:00 -0700
                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-16 11:06 -0500
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-16 18:38 +0200
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-25 13:02 +0000
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-17 09:45 +0100
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-17 08:34 -0500
                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-18 12:35 +0100
                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-18 21:23 -0500
                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-19 11:09 +0100
                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-19 16:52 -0500
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-19 22:09 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 07:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 10:50 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-20 15:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:50 -0700
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-21 12:36 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:43 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 20:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-21 07:00 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 09:19 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:15 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-21 09:14 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-21 21:33 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-22 11:51 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 07:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:39 -0500
                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 10:35 -0700
                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 13:45 -0500
                                                              Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-21 19:06 +0000
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:00 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-22 14:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:29 -0500
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-22 15:47 +0100
                                                                  Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:27 +0100
                                                                    Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 14:28 -0400
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 11:58 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 15:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-22 18:11 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 22:16 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:37 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:06 -0500
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:33 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:26 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:35 -0400
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:41 -0400
                                                                                Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-28 09:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-28 06:28 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:07 -0500
                                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:09 -0400
                                                                                          Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-29 07:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-28 16:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-28 19:28 +0200
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:00 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-29 06:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:31 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-23 11:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-24 13:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:35 -0400
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-01 13:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-01 08:27 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-02 14:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-02 19:17 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-02 15:14 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 14:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-02 20:15 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:41 +0200
                                                                            Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-01 13:27 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-05 03:46 +1100
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:51 +0200
                                                                                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:29 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-05 07:16 -0700
                                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-05 15:37 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 09:53 +0100
                                                                      Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 13:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 20:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:46 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:42 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 14:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:51 -0700
                                                              Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:31 -0700
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 14:18 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 21:36 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 15:05 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 22:21 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:49 -0700
                                                                    steam coold, too, was: power supplies danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-25 02:22 +0000
                                                                      Re: steam coold, too, was: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 07:17 -0700
                                                                  Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:44 -0700
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 10:36 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-25 10:51 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 14:10 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 12:33 -0700
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 15:07 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-25 20:21 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 16:04 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-27 07:01 -0400
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 16:42 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:42 -0400
                                                            Re: power supplies Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                                                            Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:43 +0100
                                                            Re: power supplies Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2015-09-23 07:47 -0600
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 20:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:41 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-22 23:58 +0200
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:48 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2015-09-24 12:13 +0800
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 18:10 -0500
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 01:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:36 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-21 22:11 -0500
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:02 +0100
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:40 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-22 10:46 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-22 10:51 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 19:23 +0100
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 11:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 14:58 -0500
                                                                              accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-23 20:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:49 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:05 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:01 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:47 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 12:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:00 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-25 09:07 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-23 14:52 +0200
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 12:55 -0700
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-24 00:46 +0200
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-24 17:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 10:53 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:30 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 22:12 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-22 19:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-24 07:43 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:46 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 18:56 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-24 04:05 +0100
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 22:31 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 15:49 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-24 11:05 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 16:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 08:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:02 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:28 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:17 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2015-09-22 11:41 -0700
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-23 14:46 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-23 17:12 +0200
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 10:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-21 22:09 -0400
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:25 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-22 07:00 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:26 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-20 19:34 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:16 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:33 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:31 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-20 16:26 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-20 21:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:23 +0100
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-20 10:22 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 16:48 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 10:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 20:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:49 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-21 17:05 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:03 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-22 00:45 -0400
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-20 12:56 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:52 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 01:20 +0200
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:07 +0200
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:20 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-20 19:23 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 14:11 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 17:08 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:50 +1000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-28 05:43 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:03 -0500
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 10:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 12:36 -0400
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 09:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 13:20 -0400
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 19:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 15:12 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 17:01 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 17:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 20:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:32 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 18:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 03:07 +0100
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 10:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 12:53 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:14 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:24 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 20:26 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 12:16 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-01 10:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-29 07:47 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:36 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:26 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:52 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-30 22:54 +0200
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 09:02 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-30 21:59 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 14:49 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-09-30 20:09 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-01 05:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:13 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 05:40 +1000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:34 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 13:45 +1000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:59 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:14 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 14:56 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 16:08 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:30 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:12 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 17:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 21:22 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-29 07:52 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 07:52 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-02 16:41 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 18:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:10 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-05 16:20 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:05 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-06 17:17 -0500
                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:27 -0700
                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-07 21:42 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 18:01 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-08 11:41 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 11:25 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 07:49 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:07 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-09 23:59 -0300
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-08 11:17 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:28 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 13:21 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-14 11:41 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-14 14:45 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-15 03:21 -0300
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-15 08:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 13:53 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 11:32 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:36 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:50 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 13:49 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 14:23 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:20 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-10 15:00 -0300
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-10 20:11 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:32 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-10 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:43 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 21:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:33 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 19:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 11:23 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:46 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:17 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 09:24 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 13:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:20 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 17:59 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 02:05 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:45 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:13 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:45 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 08:20 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 16:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 21:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:43 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-15 07:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 12:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 13:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:21 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-14 10:37 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 16:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 17:57 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 14:48 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 12:34 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 07:32 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 01:12 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:34 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 11:11 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 16:32 -0300
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-10-29 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:29 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:35 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 21:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:30 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 11:40 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-30 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-31 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-31 12:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-31 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-31 21:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-01 15:04 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-01 10:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-01 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 11:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 05:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 06:16 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 13:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 17:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 21:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 15:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 11:02 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 07:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 06:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 08:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 19:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 13:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 17:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-12 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 23:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-05 07:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 06:27 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-11-06 02:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 10:12 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 12:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-04 20:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:33 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-05 22:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:30 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:43 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 07:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 08:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 09:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2015-11-02 16:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 10:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 10:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 20:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 20:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-13 08:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 06:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-13 08:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-13 10:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-16 11:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:21 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-13 14:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:47 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 01:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-14 09:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 10:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 04:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 12:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-14 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 16:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 12:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 20:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 08:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 08:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 12:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 15:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-17 16:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-17 12:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 17:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-19 09:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-19 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-19 10:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-20 08:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-20 10:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 09:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 18:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-15 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-15 16:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-15 19:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:36 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-15 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-13 14:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 14:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 18:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 21:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality - Y2K Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 08:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 02:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:11 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 12:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 12:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-10 03:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-10 10:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:42 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-07 11:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 15:39 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 11:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 11:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 17:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 09:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 13:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 14:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 21:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-07 13:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 11:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-07 19:11 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 00:50 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-08 11:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-07 18:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 12:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-02 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 11:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 13:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 13:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 11:25 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:51 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 17:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 18:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2015-11-02 21:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:04 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 11:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 11:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-08 16:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 03:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-08 15:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 14:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 09:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 08:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 00:10 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 04:22 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 05:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 12:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality tracymnelson@gmail.com - 2015-11-09 10:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-09 17:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:08 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:09 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 01:19 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 15:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-15 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 14:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 15:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-11-16 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-16 18:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-17 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-16 21:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 22:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 19:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 16:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 16:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 09:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-11-09 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-10 00:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:14 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-12 16:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 19:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-13 09:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-13 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:46 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-14 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 10:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 17:50 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:27 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 09:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 14:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-09 13:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-09 11:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-08 06:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:37 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 16:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 10:59 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-08 23:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 14:41 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Overthrow Chinese Governmen  (Was: Re: rationality) mentificium@gmail.com - 2015-11-06 04:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 10:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:26 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 13:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 18:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 01:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 22:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-05 17:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:52 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 10:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 18:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 19:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 10:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality - bridge to somewhere Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 09:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 12:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:06 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 02:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 09:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-11 12:20 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-10 22:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 07:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-03 12:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 10:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-03 09:09 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 15:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 22:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 17:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 02:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 08:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 14:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-11-04 16:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-03 19:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 07:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-01 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 12:57 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 07:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-05 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:27 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-29 13:45 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 23:46 -0300
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 04:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-30 12:39 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-29 21:02 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 09:42 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 10:41 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-04 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 11:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 11:33 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-05 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-14 15:52 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-13 12:21 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 13:54 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 17:02 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 10:38 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-16 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-19 13:28 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-19 15:18 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-20 11:27 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-08 10:23 -0400
                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:55 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 12:02 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:37 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:24 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:15 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 22:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-10 17:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 08:32 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-03 11:11 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 15:55 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 14:11 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-04 14:50 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-05 17:44 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-06 13:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-06 17:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-06 09:26 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:40 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 16:12 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:14 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-06 12:03 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 10:07 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:05 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:40 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 12:35 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 13:03 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:48 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:17 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:25 -0400
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 09:37 +1000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:06 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 19:25 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-30 02:26 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-30 03:35 -0300
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:58 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-30 06:25 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 21:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 11:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:17 +1000

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#152845 — Re: rationality

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2015-10-13 15:25 -0700
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<feb9aedd-ddc2-4f91-9781-d8fd5c0c0d66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#152838
On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 3:33:06 PM UTC-6, Charles Richmond wrote:

> No, we do *not* owe in the legal or financial sense, but in the *moral* 
> sense.

I tend not to see this as a useful distinction.

If an obligation genuinely exists, that it is moral and not legal merely means 
that there is a loophole in the law.

It is useful to distinguish between that which is, or should be, obligatory, 
and that which is merely desirable and meritorious.

We are obligated not to commit acts of aggression.

Acts of kindness, of generosity, of charity, and of mercy are praiseworthy. But 
they go beyond what is obligatory for a number of reasons. One is that there is 
no inherent limit to what can be done of that nature.

None the less, I don't consider it evil that governments use force to collect 
taxes, and then use some of those taxes for such things as poor relief. Libertarianism is a natural result of an _attempt_ to create an _a priori_ 
moral system. However, we live in a real world, and pragmatism as opposed to 
being a rigid ideolgue is indeed a "survival characteristic" for the individual 
and the group - the tribe or the nation.

Political systems providing a modicum of liberty, an approximation of 
democracy, would not long survive in the real world if they could not tax to 
support their militaries and conscript when the need arises.

Wide disparities between rich and poor - often exacerbated by government 
policies that favor busness over labor in order to promote industrial 
development (needed for armaments) - endanger social stability.

Also, since men spend a lot of money in an "arms race" of another sort, buying 
bling to compete for mates, taxes that are allocated in an equitable manner 
don't change relative rank order, but put the money to better use.

John Savard

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#152850 — Re: rationality

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2015-10-13 19:06 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvk669$b1v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152845
On 13-Oct-15 17:25, Quadibloc wrote:
> Charles Richmond wrote:
>> No, we do *not* owe in the legal or financial sense, but in the
>> *moral* sense.
> 
> I tend not to see this as a useful distinction.
> 
> If an obligation genuinely exists, that it is moral and not legal
> merely means that there is a loophole in the law.

That assumes a universal (and presumably objective) morality, which is
at best uncertain.

Also, many folks conflate religion and morality, which quickly runs into
problems when people of different religions (or interpretations of the
same religion) interact, and then there are atheists (assumed by many
theists to be immoral at worst or amoral at best) and the problem of
religion itself being immoral in practice and maybe even in theory.

> Also, since men spend a lot of money in an "arms race" of another
> sort, buying bling to compete for mates, taxes that are allocated in
> an equitable manner don't change relative rank order, but put the
> money to better use.

That's an interesting argument I haven't seen before.

Past a certain point, money is merely a means to keep score, so if you
reduce _everyone's_ score, there is no net effect on society?

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#152871 — Re: rationality

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvkpqt31lh0@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#152850
On 2015-10-14, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:

> Past a certain point, money is merely a means to keep score, so if you
> reduce _everyone's_ score, there is no net effect on society?

Would this simply be called deflation?  Mind you, it'd be a much purer
form than we normally see, since it's impossible to change everyone's
score simultaneously.

I think a lot of people would love to reduce everyone's score -
except for their own, of course.

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#152907 — Re: rationality

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2015-10-14 11:23 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvlvdj$v3s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152871
On 14-Oct-15 00:39, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2015-10-14, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>> Past a certain point, money is merely a means to keep score, so if
>> you reduce _everyone's_ score, there is no net effect on society?

To be clear, the above was paraphrasing someone else to be sure I
understood them, not a statement of my own beliefs.

> Would this simply be called deflation?  Mind you, it'd be a much
> purer form than we normally see, since it's impossible to change
> everyone's score simultaneously.

I'm not sure it qualifies as deflation since (I assume) we're only
talking about taxing income, not wealth.

Either way, I doubt it's feasible to raise taxes enough to have a true
deflationary effect, but it might be feasible to materially reduce the
rate of inflation.  Whether that is good or bad depends on whether you
are a net creditor or debtor.

> I think a lot of people would love to reduce everyone's score - 
> except for their own, of course.

Of course, but that means the net effect isn't zero.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
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#152878 — Re: rationality

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2015-10-14 12:46 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d87151F9bbeU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152762
On 2015-10-12, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2015-10-12, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>> "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:mvcifr$lml$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 10/10/2015 6:32 PM, Charles Richmond wrote:
>>>>> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:mv9ell0ug3@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>>>> On 2015-10-09, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Recent research says that altruism is a species-survival trait.
>>>>>>>> Basically, we're genetically wired that way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish that big business, who gives us smaller packages of product
>>>>>>> for ever
>>>>>>> higher prices, would *learn* that altruism is a species-survival
>>>>>>> trait!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, they know that full well.  However, it's _their_ species whose
>>>>>> survival
>>>>>> they're concerned with, not ours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Although they are of the more *evil* variety, we *are* all the same
>>>>> species. When they destory *our* world, they destroy their own world too.
>>>>
>>>> No, they're not the same species (they, i.e. corporations etc., are
>>>> not human, even if the Supremes think they are "people"). They're more
>>>> like symbiotes. Or parasites, since humans can live without
>>>> corporations, but corporations cannot live without humans.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom you 
>>> will find some humans.  Those humans and all other humans owe compassion and 
>>> assistance to other humans.  No matter how one human may try to deny this, 
>>> nevertheless the truth remains.  Altruism is a special-survival trait.
>>
>> Nonetheless, nobody "owes" anybody anything.
>
> That's odd.
> I frequently owe things to other people.
> Doesn't that make your statement false?

Only if you take it out of context, which doubtless you have done deliberately
in order to make a (specious) rhetorical point.


-- 
Today is Boomtime, the 68th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3181
                  I don't have an attitude problem.
    If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.

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#152882 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-10-14 09:17 -0400
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvlkhg$ig9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152878
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:

> On 2015-10-12, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On 2015-10-12, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>> "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:mvcifr$lml$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 10/10/2015 6:32 PM, Charles Richmond wrote:
>>>>>> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:mv9ell0ug3@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>> On 2015-10-09, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Recent research says that altruism is a species-survival trait.
>>>>>>>>> Basically, we're genetically wired that way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish that big business, who gives us smaller packages of product
>>>>>>>> for ever
>>>>>>>> higher prices, would *learn* that altruism is a species-survival
>>>>>>>> trait!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, they know that full well.  However, it's _their_ species whose
>>>>>>> survival
>>>>>>> they're concerned with, not ours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although they are of the more *evil* variety, we *are* all the same
>>>>>> species. When they destory *our* world, they destroy their own world too.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they're not the same species (they, i.e. corporations etc., are
>>>>> not human, even if the Supremes think they are "people"). They're more
>>>>> like symbiotes. Or parasites, since humans can live without
>>>>> corporations, but corporations cannot live without humans.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom you 
>>>> will find some humans.  Those humans and all other humans owe compassion and 
>>>> assistance to other humans.  No matter how one human may try to deny this, 
>>>> nevertheless the truth remains.  Altruism is a special-survival trait.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, nobody "owes" anybody anything.
>>
>> That's odd.
>> I frequently owe things to other people.
>> Doesn't that make your statement false?
>
> Only if you take it out of context, which doubtless you have done deliberately
> in order to make a (specious) rhetorical point.

Oddly enough, I checked back to find your original post so I could
include any stuff I trimmed.

Looks like I didn't trim anything.

Maybe you'd like to refine your comment.
Maybe I don't care.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#152908 — Re: rationality

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2015-10-14 09:24 -0700
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<3d74e9f3-3624-4fbb-ad42-aa4136a4d148@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#152882
On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 7:17:35 AM UTC-6, D_J_E wrote:

> Looks like I didn't trim anything.

That's true. So people reading your post were easily able to see that your reply 
was aimed at what he said taken literally... and not what it was obviously 
intended to mean, given what he was replying to.

So, while you did not deprive his statement of its context, you could still be 
said to have "taken" it out of context in the sense that you apparently read 
and understood it without taking its context into account.

John Savard

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#152915 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-10-14 13:01 -0400
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvm1lb$7on$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152908
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:

> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 7:17:35 AM UTC-6, D_J_E wrote:
>
>> Looks like I didn't trim anything.
>
> That's true. So people reading your post were easily able to see that your reply 
> was aimed at what he said taken literally... and not what it was obviously 
> intended to mean, given what he was replying to.
>
> So, while you did not deprive his statement of its context, you could still be 
> said to have "taken" it out of context in the sense that you apparently read 
> and understood it without taking its context into account.

Yes, I know.

I just thought the statement needed refining.
As it was, all I saw was an apparently false statement.


-- 
Dan Espen

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#152926 — Re: rationality

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2015-10-14 19:04 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d87n9tFesmfU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152915
On 2015-10-14, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 7:17:35 AM UTC-6, D_J_E wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like I didn't trim anything.
>>
>> That's true. So people reading your post were easily able to see that your reply 
>> was aimed at what he said taken literally... and not what it was obviously 
>> intended to mean, given what he was replying to.
>>
>> So, while you did not deprive his statement of its context, you could still be 
>> said to have "taken" it out of context in the sense that you apparently read 
>> and understood it without taking its context into account.
>
> Yes, I know.
>
> I just thought the statement needed refining.
> As it was, all I saw was an apparently false statement.

You need to learn to read and understand better.


-- 
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                  I don't have an attitude problem.
    If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.

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#152933 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-10-14 16:20 -0400
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvmdad$mjg$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152926
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:

> On 2015-10-14, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 7:17:35 AM UTC-6, D_J_E wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like I didn't trim anything.
>>>
>>> That's true. So people reading your post were easily able to see that your reply 
>>> was aimed at what he said taken literally... and not what it was obviously 
>>> intended to mean, given what he was replying to.
>>>
>>> So, while you did not deprive his statement of its context, you could still be 
>>> said to have "taken" it out of context in the sense that you apparently read 
>>> and understood it without taking its context into account.
>>
>> Yes, I know.
>>
>> I just thought the statement needed refining.
>> As it was, all I saw was an apparently false statement.
>
> You need to learn to read and understand better.

If you say so.

I was just trying to understand your point but I don't want to belabor
the issue.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#152837 — Re: rationality

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-13 16:24 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvjsmr$5ki$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152754
"Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message 
news:d82nkoF75hdU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 2015-10-12, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>> "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message
>> news:mvcifr$lml$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 10/10/2015 6:32 PM, Charles Richmond wrote:
>>>> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:mv9ell0ug3@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>>> On 2015-10-09, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recent research says that altruism is a species-survival trait.
>>>>>>> Basically, we're genetically wired that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish that big business, who gives us smaller packages of product
>>>>>> for ever
>>>>>> higher prices, would *learn* that altruism is a species-survival
>>>>>> trait!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, they know that full well.  However, it's _their_ species whose
>>>>> survival
>>>>> they're concerned with, not ours.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Although they are of the more *evil* variety, we *are* all the same
>>>> species. When they destory *our* world, they destroy their own world 
>>>> too.
>>>
>>> No, they're not the same species (they, i.e. corporations etc., are
>>> not human, even if the Supremes think they are "people"). They're more
>>> like symbiotes. Or parasites, since humans can live without
>>> corporations, but corporations cannot live without humans.
>>>
>>
>> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom you
>> will find some humans.  Those humans and all other humans owe compassion 
>> and
>> assistance to other humans.  No matter how one human may try to deny 
>> this,
>> nevertheless the truth remains.  Altruism is a special-survival trait.
>
> Nonetheless, nobody "owes" anybody anything.
>

If we wish to maintain a civilized society, it is *not* strictly true... 
that "nobody 'owes' anybody anything".

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152910 — Re: rationality

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-10-14 09:34 -0700
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<4574a264-6df5-44e5-b189-f5976baf300f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#152837
On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 5:24:41 PM UTC-4, Charles Richmond wrote:

> If we wish to maintain a civilized society, it is *not* strictly true... 
> that "nobody 'owes' anybody anything".

Depends on how you define "civilized society".

FWIW, the Bible does define certain mandated acts of charity for the poor; and also encourages general charitableness for the poor.

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#152757 — Re: rationality

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-10-12 17:59 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvhdtq$m01$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152749
On 10/12/2015 3:54 PM, Charles Richmond wrote:
> "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message
> news:mvcifr$lml$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 10/10/2015 6:32 PM, Charles Richmond wrote:
>>> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:mv9ell0ug3@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>> On 2015-10-09, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> Recent research says that altruism is a species-survival trait.
>>>>>> Basically, we're genetically wired that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish that big business, who gives us smaller packages of product
>>>>> for ever
>>>>> higher prices, would *learn* that altruism is a species-survival
>>>>> trait!!!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, they know that full well.  However, it's _their_ species whose
>>>> survival
>>>> they're concerned with, not ours.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Although they are of the more *evil* variety, we *are* all the same
>>> species. When they destory *our* world, they destroy their own
>>> world too.
>>
>> No, they're not the same species (they, i.e. corporations etc., are
>> not human, even if the Supremes think they are "people"). They're more
>> like symbiotes. Or parasites, since humans can live without
>> corporations, but corporations cannot live without humans.
>>
> 
> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom
> you will find some humans.  Those humans and all other humans owe
> compassion and assistance to other humans.  No matter how one human
> may try to deny this, nevertheless the truth remains.  Altruism is a
> special-survival trait.
> 
Altruism may well be a species survival trait for biologic species.
But just because corporations involve humans, that doesn't mean they
have the same objectives or laws of behavior as the human species.
Except for the smallest, corporations are not tied to particular
individual humans, and may outlive humans by quite a bit (the Hudson's
Bay Company was "born" in 1670, and it's not the oldest). Corporations
(in general) are inherently amoral. Thus we have instances like Krupp,
VW, Enron, Bhopal, and Minamata.

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#152772 — Re: rationality

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2015-10-13 02:05 -0300
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<87612bxsqw.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#152749
"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:

> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom you 
> will find some humans.

   Few trends could so thoroughly undermine the very foundations
   of our free society as the acceptance by corporate officials of
   a social responsibility other than to make as much money for
   their stockholders as possible.     -- Milton Friedman


The corporate entity has no human qualities.  Friedman's assertion is
to this degree correct, that the corporation is an artificial
structure, intentionally designed such that greed is its only
motivation and obedience to the letter of the law its only constraint.
I have not been the only person to point out that this results, both
essentially and effectively, in a synthetic psychopath -- "antisocial
personality disorder" if you read the DSM IV -- of a purity and
singleness of focus hardly attainable by a disordered natural person.
The corporate structure itself is mandated to be a psychopath.  This
fact creates a permanent and unrelenting bias, exerts an unrelenting
force on all the natural people of which corporate entity is composed.
The well-known phenomenon of "corporate culture" varies from instance
to instance due to various factors -- strong founders, other strong
personalities, fortuitous position in time or within an industry, a
host of other fortuitous or happenstance factors.  But the bias to
psychopathy is always there in any corporation that falls within the
domain of Friedman's remark.

Circa 1970, Schumacher wrote,

    The modern economy is propelled by a frenzy of greed and indulges
    in an orgy of envy and these are not accidental features but the
    very causes if its expansionist success....If human vices such as
    greed and envy are systematically cultivated, the inevitable
    result us nothing less than the collapse of intelligence.  If
    whole societies become infected by these vices, they may indeed
    achieve astonishing things but the become increasingly incapable
    of solving the most elementary problems of everyday existence.


> Those humans and all other humans owe compassion and assistance to
> other humans.  No matter how one human may try to deny this,
> nevertheless the truth remains.

Just so.  But typically those who are the components of a large
corporation are not going to render what's owing.

After Bhopal, the CEO -- Anderson? -- was said to have expressed
humility and mortification and to have accepted responsibility.  One
might have expected im to spend the rest of his life in sack cloth and
ashes. That may well have been unfeigned but before long, it was
business as usual again.  The inexorable corporate bias to
psychopathic self-interest was just too much.  We should have expected
that the corporation take every possible precaution to prevent such a
disaster, no matter how costly to the shareholders. In the aftermath,
we should have demanded the death penalty for Union Carbide.  That
might have meant simply terminating the company or, better, putting it
under the control of a bankruptcy master and devoting all its net
income to remediation.  Forever.

>  Altruism is a special-survival trait.

I'm sure it is.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#152822 — Re: rationality

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvji7g311o4@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#152772
On 2015-10-13, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

> "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
>
>> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom
>> you will find some humans.

Yes, but they don't count.  It's the ones at the top who set the
direction that things go - while making condescending remarks like
the "small people" quip by the chairman of BP (readily available
on YouTube).

>    Few trends could so thoroughly undermine the very foundations
>    of our free society as the acceptance by corporate officials of
>    a social responsibility other than to make as much money for
>    their stockholders as possible.     -- Milton Friedman
>
>
> The corporate entity has no human qualities.  Friedman's assertion is
> to this degree correct, that the corporation is an artificial
> structure, intentionally designed such that greed is its only
> motivation and obedience to the letter of the law its only constraint.
> I have not been the only person to point out that this results, both
> essentially and effectively, in a synthetic psychopath -- "antisocial
> personality disorder" if you read the DSM IV -- of a purity and
> singleness of focus hardly attainable by a disordered natural person.

ISTR some psychologists running a typical corporate profile against
the DSM and concluding that it was a psychopath.

> The corporate structure itself is mandated to be a psychopath.  This
> fact creates a permanent and unrelenting bias, exerts an unrelenting
> force on all the natural people of which corporate entity is composed.
> The well-known phenomenon of "corporate culture" varies from instance
> to instance due to various factors -- strong founders, other strong
> personalities, fortuitous position in time or within an industry, a
> host of other fortuitous or happenstance factors.  But the bias to
> psychopathy is always there in any corporation that falls within the
> domain of Friedman's remark.
>
> Circa 1970, Schumacher wrote,
>
>     The modern economy is propelled by a frenzy of greed and indulges
>     in an orgy of envy and these are not accidental features but the
>     very causes if its expansionist success....If human vices such as
>     greed and envy are systematically cultivated, the inevitable
>     result us nothing less than the collapse of intelligence.  If
>     whole societies become infected by these vices, they may indeed
>     achieve astonishing things but the become increasingly incapable
>     of solving the most elementary problems of everyday existence.

I wonder what Schumacher thought ten or so years later when our
whole society was indeed infected by these vices.

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#152840 — Re: rationality

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-13 17:05 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvjv3p$irm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152822
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message 
news:mvji7g311o4@news3.newsguy.com...
> On 2015-10-13, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
>> "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
>>
>>> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom
>>> you will find some humans.
>
> Yes, but they don't count.  It's the ones at the top who set the
> direction that things go - while making condescending remarks like
> the "small people" quip by the chairman of BP (readily available
> on YouTube).
>

So with the psychopathic nature of corporations and the abnegation of 
humanity practiced by the "humans" that run the corporations, it is sort of 
an obligation for human beings to *oppose* the corporations.  Although the 
corporations seem to have the "upper hand" at this time, and we may be close 
to it... I personally do *not* want the world controlled like in the novel 
_1984_.

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152860 — Re: rationality

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvkhcn11hlq@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#152840
On 2015-10-13, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:mvji7g311o4@news3.newsguy.com...
>
>> On 2015-10-13, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>>
>>> "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> When you dig through all the debris of the corporation, at the bottom
>>>> you will find some humans.
>>
>> Yes, but they don't count.  It's the ones at the top who set the
>> direction that things go - while making condescending remarks like
>> the "small people" quip by the chairman of BP (readily available
>> on YouTube).
>
> So with the psychopathic nature of corporations and the abnegation of 
> humanity practiced by the "humans" that run the corporations, it is
> sort of an obligation for human beings to *oppose* the corporations.

However, let us be sure to distinguish "oppose" from "eliminate".
Corporations serve a valuable purpose.  So do governments.  However,
their powers must be kept in check.  History tells us what happens
should either of them run amok.

> Although the corporations seem to have the "upper hand" at this time,
> and we may be close to it... I personally do *not* want the world
> controlled like in the novel _1984_.

Right - it's not just history but fiction that tells us what happens
when a society becomes unbalanced.  As for the control of the world
in _Nineteen Eighty-Four_, we're in great danger.  The telescreens
have already been deployed (personal computers with webcams, microphones,
and insecure Internet connections).  The surveillance continues with
data mining, and although ankle bracelets are seen as a bad thing,
the proles eagerly adopt GPS-enabled smartphones which do exactly
the same thing.

-- 
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#152911 — Re: rationality

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-10-14 09:45 -0700
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<f2aed89f-0d36-4e11-bf3d-d8b4e8a6b2b8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#152860
On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 11:16:11 PM UTC-4, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> However, let us be sure to distinguish "oppose" from "eliminate".
> Corporations serve a valuable purpose.  So do governments.  However,
> their powers must be kept in check.  History tells us what happens
> should either of them run amok.

The key to a healthy arrangement is balance.  We don't want corporations to have too much power--like they have today--but not too little power--as they suffered with in the 1970s.

Government is a tougher issue.  Today, both state and federal governments are paralyzed by tea-party stubborness.  But this is far from the first time that radicals have taken over, fed from false propaganda.  It's a shame that the results are disasterous and the tea party supporters are blind to that.


> Right - it's not just history but fiction that tells us what happens
> when a society becomes unbalanced.  As for the control of the world
> in _Nineteen Eighty-Four_, we're in great danger.  The telescreens
> have already been deployed (personal computers with webcams, microphones,
> and insecure Internet connections).  The surveillance continues with
> data mining, and although ankle bracelets are seen as a bad thing,
> the proles ea...

IMHO, the biggest threat is from data mining.  Our employer, government (all levels), health care, insurance companies, banks, etc., all capture tons of information about us.  Modern computers allow them to not only store _everything_, but also categorize it and sort it quickly and easily, and transmit anywhere in the world.

Identity thieves have taken full advantage of this.

Insurance companies, banks, and employers (at the least), take advantage of this to do screening, some known, but some secret, using secret databases consumers do not know about nor can do anything about.  (CBS News did a report on this a year or so ago).

I am waiting for some kid to be offered a job, but told the salary will be low because something in his past.  In reality, there isn't any risk to his job at all, but it gives the employer a nice little wedge to save money and hold down wages.

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#152842 — Re: rationality

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2015-10-13 15:13 -0700
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<58d81f54-f958-4922-b6e4-26bb4325e023@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#152772
On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 11:06:54 PM UTC-6, Mike Spencer wrote:

> After Bhopal,

The Bhopal disaster was caused by sabotage carried out by Soviet spies - which 
India declined to investigate for political reasons.

John Savard

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#152851 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<mvk8t1$i0l$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152842
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:

> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 11:06:54 PM UTC-6, Mike Spencer wrote:
>
>> After Bhopal,
>
> The Bhopal disaster was caused by sabotage carried out by Soviet spies - which 
> India declined to investigate for political reasons.
>
> John Savard

You seem to have made that up.

Google fails to find any references at all.
Maybe in a few hours your post will show up.

-- 
Dan Espen

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