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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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First post2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
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  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 10:21 -0500
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 10:54 -0500
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 11:43 -0500
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 14:07 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 14:00 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 14:05 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 15:58 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-11 19:04 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-11 23:29 -0400
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-10 12:47 -0700
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 19:03 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-11 10:21 +1000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 21:54 +0000
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-11 12:48 +0000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 05:05 +1000
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-12 13:24 +0000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 04:27 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 14:12 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 06:51 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 21:47 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-12 22:53 -0500
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-13 17:46 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:16 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 10:17 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-15 04:48 +1000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:13 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 18:06 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 14:20 +1000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:28 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-13 10:54 -0500
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:15 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-13 23:01 -0700
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-14 04:18 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-12 19:38 -0700
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 12:20 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 21:45 +0100
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-13 13:43 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:30 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-14 07:00 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-14 12:50 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 09:13 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 04:31 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-14 16:35 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 07:58 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 08:14 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:16 +0200
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 10:12 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-15 17:48 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 11:51 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 16:03 +0200
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:01 +0100
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 19:29 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:13 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:12 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:39 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 11:54 +0000
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-15 06:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 14:55 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:05 +0100
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-16 12:54 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:27 +0100
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-16 14:49 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:43 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:12 +0100
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 11:21 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:02 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:08 -0700
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 11:04 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:45 -0700
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 18:02 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 12:50 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 07:33 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 10:11 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 13:53 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 18:08 -0700
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 21:34 -0400
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 21:15 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 19:17 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:30 -0400
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 15:36 -0400
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 16:27 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 17:25 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-17 07:11 -0500
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:58 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:35 +0200
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-18 13:19 +0000
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-18 09:58 -0700
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-18 10:25 -0700
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-19 16:29 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-18 19:43 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:36 -0500
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-19 10:06 +0100
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:14 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-16 13:40 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:52 -0700
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-18 11:46 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                  Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:02 +0100
                    Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0500
                      Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-15 19:50 -0700
                        Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:00 -0700
                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-16 11:06 -0500
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-16 18:38 +0200
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-25 13:02 +0000
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-17 09:45 +0100
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-17 08:34 -0500
                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-18 12:35 +0100
                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-18 21:23 -0500
                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-19 11:09 +0100
                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-19 16:52 -0500
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-19 22:09 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 07:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 10:50 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-20 15:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:50 -0700
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-21 12:36 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:43 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 20:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-21 07:00 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 09:19 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:15 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-21 09:14 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-21 21:33 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-22 11:51 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 07:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:39 -0500
                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 10:35 -0700
                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 13:45 -0500
                                                              Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-21 19:06 +0000
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:00 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-22 14:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:29 -0500
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-22 15:47 +0100
                                                                  Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:27 +0100
                                                                    Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 14:28 -0400
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 11:58 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 15:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-22 18:11 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 22:16 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:37 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:06 -0500
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:33 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:26 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:35 -0400
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:41 -0400
                                                                                Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-28 09:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-28 06:28 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:07 -0500
                                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:09 -0400
                                                                                          Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-29 07:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-28 16:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-28 19:28 +0200
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:00 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-29 06:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:31 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-23 11:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-24 13:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:35 -0400
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-01 13:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-01 08:27 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-02 14:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-02 19:17 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-02 15:14 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 14:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-02 20:15 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:41 +0200
                                                                            Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-01 13:27 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-05 03:46 +1100
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:51 +0200
                                                                                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:29 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-05 07:16 -0700
                                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-05 15:37 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 09:53 +0100
                                                                      Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 13:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 20:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:46 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:42 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 14:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:51 -0700
                                                              Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:31 -0700
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 14:18 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 21:36 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 15:05 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 22:21 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:49 -0700
                                                                    steam coold, too, was: power supplies danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-25 02:22 +0000
                                                                      Re: steam coold, too, was: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 07:17 -0700
                                                                  Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:44 -0700
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 10:36 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-25 10:51 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 14:10 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 12:33 -0700
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 15:07 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-25 20:21 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 16:04 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-27 07:01 -0400
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 16:42 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:42 -0400
                                                            Re: power supplies Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                                                            Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:43 +0100
                                                            Re: power supplies Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2015-09-23 07:47 -0600
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 20:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:41 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-22 23:58 +0200
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:48 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2015-09-24 12:13 +0800
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 18:10 -0500
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 01:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:36 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-21 22:11 -0500
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:02 +0100
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:40 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-22 10:46 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-22 10:51 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 19:23 +0100
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 11:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 14:58 -0500
                                                                              accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-23 20:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:49 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:05 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:01 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:47 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 12:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:00 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-25 09:07 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-23 14:52 +0200
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 12:55 -0700
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-24 00:46 +0200
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-24 17:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 10:53 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:30 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 22:12 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-22 19:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-24 07:43 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:46 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 18:56 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-24 04:05 +0100
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 22:31 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 15:49 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-24 11:05 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 16:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 08:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:02 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:28 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:17 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2015-09-22 11:41 -0700
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-23 14:46 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-23 17:12 +0200
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 10:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-21 22:09 -0400
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:25 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-22 07:00 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:26 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-20 19:34 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:16 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:33 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:31 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-20 16:26 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-20 21:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:23 +0100
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-20 10:22 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 16:48 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 10:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 20:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:49 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-21 17:05 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:03 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-22 00:45 -0400
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-20 12:56 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:52 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 01:20 +0200
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:07 +0200
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:20 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-20 19:23 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 14:11 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 17:08 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:50 +1000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-28 05:43 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:03 -0500
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 10:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 12:36 -0400
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 09:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 13:20 -0400
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 19:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 15:12 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 17:01 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 17:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 20:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:32 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 18:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 03:07 +0100
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 10:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 12:53 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:14 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:24 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 20:26 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 12:16 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-01 10:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-29 07:47 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:36 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:26 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:52 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-30 22:54 +0200
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 09:02 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-30 21:59 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 14:49 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-09-30 20:09 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-01 05:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:13 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 05:40 +1000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:34 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 13:45 +1000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:59 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:14 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 14:56 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 16:08 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:30 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:12 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 17:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 21:22 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-29 07:52 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 07:52 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-02 16:41 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 18:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:10 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-05 16:20 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:05 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-06 17:17 -0500
                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:27 -0700
                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-07 21:42 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 18:01 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-08 11:41 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 11:25 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 07:49 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:07 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-09 23:59 -0300
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-08 11:17 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:28 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 13:21 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-14 11:41 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-14 14:45 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-15 03:21 -0300
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-15 08:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 13:53 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 11:32 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:36 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:50 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 13:49 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 14:23 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:20 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-10 15:00 -0300
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-10 20:11 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:32 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-10 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:43 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 21:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:33 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 19:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 11:23 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:46 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:17 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 09:24 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 13:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:20 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 17:59 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 02:05 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:45 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:13 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:45 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 08:20 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 16:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 21:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:43 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-15 07:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 12:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 13:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:21 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-14 10:37 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 16:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 17:57 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 14:48 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 12:34 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 07:32 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 01:12 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:34 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 11:11 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 16:32 -0300
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-10-29 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:29 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:35 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 21:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:30 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 11:40 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-30 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-31 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-31 12:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-31 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-31 21:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-01 15:04 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-01 10:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-01 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 11:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 05:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 06:16 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 13:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 17:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 21:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 15:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 11:02 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 07:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 06:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 08:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 19:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 13:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 17:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-12 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 23:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-05 07:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 06:27 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-11-06 02:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 10:12 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 12:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-04 20:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:33 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-05 22:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:30 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:43 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 07:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 08:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 09:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2015-11-02 16:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 10:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 10:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 20:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 20:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-13 08:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 06:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-13 08:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-13 10:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-16 11:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:21 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-13 14:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:47 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 01:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-14 09:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 10:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 04:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 12:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-14 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 16:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 12:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 20:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 08:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 08:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 12:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 15:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-17 16:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-17 12:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 17:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-19 09:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-19 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-19 10:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-20 08:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-20 10:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 09:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 18:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-15 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-15 16:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-15 19:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:36 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-15 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-13 14:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 14:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 18:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 21:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality - Y2K Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 08:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 02:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:11 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 12:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 12:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-10 03:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-10 10:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:42 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-07 11:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 15:39 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 11:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 11:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 17:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 09:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 13:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 14:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 21:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-07 13:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 11:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-07 19:11 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 00:50 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-08 11:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-07 18:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 12:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-02 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 11:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 13:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 13:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 11:25 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:51 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 17:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 18:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2015-11-02 21:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:04 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 11:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 11:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-08 16:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 03:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-08 15:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 14:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 09:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 08:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 00:10 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 04:22 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 05:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 12:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality tracymnelson@gmail.com - 2015-11-09 10:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-09 17:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:08 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:09 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 01:19 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 15:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-15 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 14:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 15:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-11-16 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-16 18:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-17 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-16 21:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 22:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 19:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 16:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 16:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 09:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-11-09 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-10 00:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:14 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-12 16:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 19:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-13 09:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-13 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:46 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-14 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 10:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 17:50 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:27 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 09:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 14:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-09 13:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-09 11:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-08 06:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:37 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 16:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 10:59 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-08 23:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 14:41 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Overthrow Chinese Governmen  (Was: Re: rationality) mentificium@gmail.com - 2015-11-06 04:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 10:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:26 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 13:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 18:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 01:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 22:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-05 17:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:52 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 10:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 18:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 19:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 10:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality - bridge to somewhere Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 09:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 12:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:06 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 02:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 09:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-11 12:20 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-10 22:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 07:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-03 12:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 10:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-03 09:09 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 15:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 22:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 17:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 02:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 08:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 14:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-11-04 16:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-03 19:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 07:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-01 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 12:57 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 07:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-05 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:27 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-29 13:45 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 23:46 -0300
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 04:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-30 12:39 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-29 21:02 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 09:42 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 10:41 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-04 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 11:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 11:33 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-05 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-14 15:52 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-13 12:21 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 13:54 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 17:02 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 10:38 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-16 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-19 13:28 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-19 15:18 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-20 11:27 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-08 10:23 -0400
                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:55 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 12:02 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:37 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:24 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:15 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 22:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-10 17:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 08:32 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-03 11:11 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 15:55 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 14:11 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-04 14:50 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-05 17:44 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-06 13:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-06 17:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-06 09:26 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:40 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 16:12 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:14 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-06 12:03 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 10:07 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:05 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:40 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 12:35 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 13:03 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:48 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:17 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:25 -0400
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 09:37 +1000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:06 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 19:25 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-30 02:26 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-30 03:35 -0300
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:58 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-30 06:25 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 21:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 11:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:17 +1000

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#152090 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-09-30 11:52 -0700
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#152012
On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 9:35:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> No, facts are facts.   Propaganda is by definition nonfactual.
> No vice, nor versa about it.

Except there can be great debate over what is a "fact".

Many 'facts' are in actuality only probability, such as in the practice of medicine.  They may be very high probability, but still not 100%.  For instance, one kid out of a million (ten million?) will die from a tonsilectomy.  A teen will die from a wisdom tooth extraction.  But both procedures are termed "very safe".

Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They give the rated capacity, which is less than the actual capacity since they work in an adequate reserve factor.  Once in a great while they do estimate wrong and a bridge fails.


Except for the most elementary facts, historical statements are subject to debate.  For instance, some people blame Britain and France for WW II, saying they were the ones who first declared war on Germany, not the other way around.  Getting people to agree on Middle East history is impossible.

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#152112 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2015-09-30 22:54 +0200
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<2qutdc-bc4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#152090
In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 9:35:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> No, facts are facts.   Propaganda is by definition nonfactual.
>> No vice, nor versa about it.
>
>Except there can be great debate over what is a "fact".
>
>Many 'facts' are in actuality only probability, such as in the practice of medicine.  They
>may be very high probability, but still not 100%.  For instance, one kid out of a million
>(ten million?) will die from a tonsilectomy.  A teen will die from a wisdom tooth
>extraction.  But both procedures are termed "very safe".
>
>Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They give the rated capacity,
>which is less than the actual capacity since they work in an adequate reserve factor.  Once
>in a great while they do estimate wrong and a bridge fails.

We(as a civilisation) do have a pretty good foundation for our contructions and
their capacities. The last bridge that collapsed due to lack of understanding the
capacity was AFAICT the Tacoma Narrows bridge; where a previously unmetered variable
became the driving parameter; wind shear. 

All the other building, tower and bridge collapses we have seen have been due
to defective materials, defective construction work or defective maintenence. 
All buildings are in a way exposed to the latter, we use way too little funds to
maintain the fundamentals of our building capital. 

It is amazing how many beatings some of the more spectacular constructions can take. 
Like the planes that went into Empire State building, the fire in Ostrakina Tower, 
or the several fires in the Eiffel Tower. 

The normal three times security margin for constructions carrying people seems
to have held up well. 

>Except for the most elementary facts, historical statements are subject to debate.  For
>instance, some people blame Britain and France for WW II, saying they were the ones who
>first declared war on Germany, not the other way around.  Getting people to agree on Middle
>East history is impossible.

There are always at least two parties to blame for a war, and there are no winners, 
only losers.

-- mrr


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#152116 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

From"Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-01 09:02 +1000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<d7380fF8c5jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152112

"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:2qutdc-bc4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 9:35:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> No, facts are facts.   Propaganda is by definition nonfactual.
>>> No vice, nor versa about it.
>>
>>Except there can be great debate over what is a "fact".
>>
>>Many 'facts' are in actuality only probability, such as in the practice of 
>>medicine.  They
>>may be very high probability, but still not 100%.  For instance, one kid 
>>out of a million
>>(ten million?) will die from a tonsilectomy.  A teen will die from a 
>>wisdom tooth
>>extraction.  But both procedures are termed "very safe".
>>
>>Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They give the 
>>rated capacity,
>>which is less than the actual capacity since they work in an adequate 
>>reserve factor.  Once
>>in a great while they do estimate wrong and a bridge fails.
>
> We(as a civilisation) do have a pretty good foundation for our 
> contructions and
> their capacities. The last bridge that collapsed due to lack of 
> understanding the
> capacity was AFAICT the Tacoma Narrows bridge; where a previously 
> unmetered variable
> became the driving parameter; wind shear.
>
> All the other building, tower and bridge collapses we have seen have been 
> due
> to defective materials, defective construction work or defective 
> maintenence.
> All buildings are in a way exposed to the latter, we use way too little 
> funds to
> maintain the fundamentals of our building capital.
>
> It is amazing how many beatings some of the more spectacular constructions 
> can take.
> Like the planes that went into Empire State building, the fire in 
> Ostrakina Tower,
> or the several fires in the Eiffel Tower.
>
> The normal three times security margin for constructions carrying people 
> seems
> to have held up well.
>
>>Except for the most elementary facts, historical statements are subject to 
>>debate.  For
>>instance, some people blame Britain and France for WW II, saying they were 
>>the ones who
>>first declared war on Germany, not the other way around.  Getting people 
>>to agree on Middle
>>East history is impossible.
>
> There are always at least two parties to blame for a war,

Not necessarily, most obviously with the sort or out
right aggression Germany showed in the start of WW2.

Japan too when it went to war with China initially.

> and there are no winners, only losers.

There can be winners too, most obviously with the Mughals and Genghis Khan. 

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#152128 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-09-30 21:59 -0500
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<mui7es$b34$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152116
On 9/30/2015 6:02 PM, Sam Thatch wrote:
> 
> 
> "Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
> news:2qutdc-bc4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>> In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
>> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 9:35:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal
>>> wrote:
>>>> No, facts are facts.   Propaganda is by definition nonfactual.
>>>> No vice, nor versa about it.
>>>
>>> Except there can be great debate over what is a "fact".
>>>
>>> Many 'facts' are in actuality only probability, such as in the
>>> practice of medicine.  They
>>> may be very high probability, but still not 100%.  For instance,
>>> one kid out of a million
>>> (ten million?) will die from a tonsilectomy.  A teen will die from
>>> a wisdom tooth
>>> extraction.  But both procedures are termed "very safe".
>>>
>>> Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They
>>> give the rated capacity,
>>> which is less than the actual capacity since they work in an
>>> adequate reserve factor.  Once
>>> in a great while they do estimate wrong and a bridge fails.
>>
>> We(as a civilisation) do have a pretty good foundation for our
>> contructions and
>> their capacities. The last bridge that collapsed due to lack of
>> understanding the
>> capacity was AFAICT the Tacoma Narrows bridge; where a previously
>> unmetered variable
>> became the driving parameter; wind shear.
>>
>> All the other building, tower and bridge collapses we have seen have
>> been due
>> to defective materials, defective construction work or defective
>> maintenence.
>> All buildings are in a way exposed to the latter, we use way too
>> little funds to
>> maintain the fundamentals of our building capital.
>>
>> It is amazing how many beatings some of the more spectacular
>> constructions can take.
>> Like the planes that went into Empire State building, the fire in
>> Ostrakina Tower,
>> or the several fires in the Eiffel Tower.
>>
>> The normal three times security margin for constructions carrying
>> people seems
>> to have held up well.
>>
>>> Except for the most elementary facts, historical statements are
>>> subject to debate.  For
>>> instance, some people blame Britain and France for WW II, saying
>>> they were the ones who
>>> first declared war on Germany, not the other way around.  Getting
>>> people to agree on Middle
>>> East history is impossible.
>>
>> There are always at least two parties to blame for a war,
> 
> Not necessarily, most obviously with the sort or out
> right aggression Germany showed in the start of WW2.

Rod, you gotta go back to the Versailles Treaty that ended WW1 to
identify the other parties.

 > Japan too when it went to war with China initially.
> 
>> and there are no winners, only losers.
> 
> There can be winners too, most obviously with the Mughals and Genghis
> Khan.

There were a few winners there. I guess if you can stay on top until
after you're dead, personally you're a winner. Most people were losers.

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#152131 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

From"Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-01 14:49 +1000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<d73sajFcl1tU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152128

"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
news:mui7es$b34$1@dont-email.me...
> On 9/30/2015 6:02 PM, Sam Thatch wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:2qutdc-bc4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>>> In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
>>> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 9:35:55 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> No, facts are facts.   Propaganda is by definition nonfactual.
>>>>> No vice, nor versa about it.
>>>>
>>>> Except there can be great debate over what is a "fact".
>>>>
>>>> Many 'facts' are in actuality only probability, such as in the
>>>> practice of medicine.  They
>>>> may be very high probability, but still not 100%.  For instance,
>>>> one kid out of a million
>>>> (ten million?) will die from a tonsilectomy.  A teen will die from
>>>> a wisdom tooth
>>>> extraction.  But both procedures are termed "very safe".
>>>>
>>>> Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They
>>>> give the rated capacity,
>>>> which is less than the actual capacity since they work in an
>>>> adequate reserve factor.  Once
>>>> in a great while they do estimate wrong and a bridge fails.
>>>
>>> We(as a civilisation) do have a pretty good foundation for our
>>> contructions and
>>> their capacities. The last bridge that collapsed due to lack of
>>> understanding the
>>> capacity was AFAICT the Tacoma Narrows bridge; where a previously
>>> unmetered variable
>>> became the driving parameter; wind shear.
>>>
>>> All the other building, tower and bridge collapses we have seen have
>>> been due
>>> to defective materials, defective construction work or defective
>>> maintenence.
>>> All buildings are in a way exposed to the latter, we use way too
>>> little funds to
>>> maintain the fundamentals of our building capital.
>>>
>>> It is amazing how many beatings some of the more spectacular
>>> constructions can take.
>>> Like the planes that went into Empire State building, the fire in
>>> Ostrakina Tower,
>>> or the several fires in the Eiffel Tower.
>>>
>>> The normal three times security margin for constructions carrying
>>> people seems
>>> to have held up well.
>>>
>>>> Except for the most elementary facts, historical statements are
>>>> subject to debate.  For
>>>> instance, some people blame Britain and France for WW II, saying
>>>> they were the ones who
>>>> first declared war on Germany, not the other way around.  Getting
>>>> people to agree on Middle
>>>> East history is impossible.
>>>
>>> There are always at least two parties to blame for a war,
>>
>> Not necessarily, most obviously with the sort or out
>> right aggression Germany showed in the start of WW2.
>
> Rod, you gotta go back to the Versailles Treaty that ended WW1 to
> identify the other parties.

That is certainly arguable with that one,
but not with others like the one just below.

Or with Genghis Khan either.

> > Japan too when it went to war with China initially.
>>
>>> and there are no winners, only losers.
>>
>> There can be winners too, most obviously with the Mughals and Genghis
>> Khan.
>
> There were a few winners there. I guess if you can stay on
> top until after you're dead, personally you're a winner.

I wasn’t talking about personal winners, the group that
won the war were the obvious winners with some of
them. They clearly weren't all losers.

> Most people were losers.

That is very arguable indeed with some of the wars. 

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#152122 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromWalter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
Date2015-09-30 20:09 -0400
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<proto-C144D8.20083130092015@news.panix.com>
In reply to#152090
In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They give the 
> rated capacity, which is less than the actual capacity since they work in an 
> adequate reserve factor.  Once in a great while they do estimate wrong and a 
> bridge fails.

Or when a cement truck fully loaded drives over a bridge with a 6 ton 
weight limit.

Old railway bridge,
Cement truck drive over
Plop!

-- 
Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greed. Me.

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#152134 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-10-01 05:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<muihcu1l5r@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#152122
On 2015-10-01, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:

> In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
>> Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They give the 
>> rated capacity, which is less than the actual capacity since they work in an 
>> adequate reserve factor.  Once in a great while they do estimate wrong and a 
>> bridge fails.
>
> Or when a cement truck fully loaded drives over a bridge with a 6 ton 
> weight limit.
>
> Old railway bridge,
> Cement truck drive over
> Plop!

Yeah, that happened here some time ago.  We put up with a one-lane
Bailey bridge for several years before the whole thing got rebuilt.

-- 
/~\  cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
\ /  I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way.
 X   Top-posted messages will probably be ignored.  See RFC1855.
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#152173 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromWalter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
Date2015-10-01 15:13 -0400
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<proto-327BCB.15125101102015@news.panix.com>
In reply to#152134
In article <muihcu1l5r@news6.newsguy.com>,
 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> On 2015-10-01, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> >
> >> Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They give the 
> >> rated capacity, which is less than the actual capacity since they work in 
> >> an 
> >> adequate reserve factor.  Once in a great while they do estimate wrong and 
> >> a 
> >> bridge fails.
> >
> > Or when a cement truck fully loaded drives over a bridge with a 6 ton 
> > weight limit.
> >
> > Old railway bridge,
> > Cement truck drive over
> > Plop!
> 
> Yeah, that happened here some time ago.  We put up with a one-lane
> Bailey bridge for several years before the whole thing got rebuilt.

Happened twice in Monkey County Maryland that I know of once in
Rockville and once in Silver Spring. At least it terminates the 
drivers.

-- 
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#152182 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

From"Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-02 05:40 +1000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<d75ghmFpnrcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152173

"Walter Bushell" <proto@panix.com> wrote in message 
news:proto-327BCB.15125101102015@news.panix.com...
> In article <muihcu1l5r@news6.newsguy.com>,
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-10-01, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <b9200bf7-454b-43ed-9e07-e90ef5c140d3@googlegroups.com>,
>> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do engineers really know the true capacity of say a bridge?  They give 
>> >> the
>> >> rated capacity, which is less than the actual capacity since they work 
>> >> in
>> >> an
>> >> adequate reserve factor.  Once in a great while they do estimate wrong 
>> >> and
>> >> a
>> >> bridge fails.
>> >
>> > Or when a cement truck fully loaded drives over a bridge with a 6 ton
>> > weight limit.
>> >
>> > Old railway bridge,
>> > Cement truck drive over
>> > Plop!
>>
>> Yeah, that happened here some time ago.  We put up with a one-lane
>> Bailey bridge for several years before the whole thing got rebuilt.
>
> Happened twice in Monkey County Maryland that I know of once in
> Rockville and once in Silver Spring. At least it terminates the drivers.

Trouble is that they have mostly spawned by then. 

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#152022 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromGreymaus <mausg@mail.com>
Date2015-09-29 14:34 +0000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<slrnn0lbju.313.mausg@dmaus.org>
In reply to#151963
On 2015-09-28, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2015-09-28, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 10:36:49 AM UTC-6, D_J_E wrote:
>>>>  
>>>
>>> Teaching things in conflict with "old-fasioned religious belief"
>>> could be pretty hard to avoid.  You get people finding all kinds of
>>> stuff in their beliefs.  Seems like Adam and Eve had a white child
>>> and a black child according to some beliefs.
>>>
>> AFAIK, the word propoganda comes in some way from an office in the Vatican,
>> called something like ``Office for the Propogation of the Faith" in
>> the Latin-Italian used by the Catholic priest. Whether is is `good' or
>> `bad.' depends on its  use.
>
> I'm going to go with whatever Google says, it must be right:
>
> prop·a·gan·da
> ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
> noun
> noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda
>
>     1.
>     derogatory
>     information, especially  of a biased  or misleading nature,  used to
>     promote or publicize a particular  political cause or point of view.
>     "he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"
>
>     synonyms: information, promotion, advertising, publicity, spin; More
>     disinformation, counter-information;
>
> 2.  a  committee of cardinals  of the Roman Catholic  Church responsible
>     for foreign missions, founded in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV.
>
> Origin
> Italian, from modern Latin congregatio de propaganda fide ‘congregation
> for propagation of the faith’ (sense 2). Sense 1 dates from the early
> 20th century.
>
>
> I think in common use, propaganda is always bad.
>
>

Not so, every message has its bias. Once you see that, you subtract 
it from the message. There is a thing on youtube, about what was happening
on this day, 100 years ago. I don;t know if it was current, but I watched it last night,
and it compared what was reported in the Central powers, and in a paper published
in Hobart, australia, nowhere was reported the horrors of trench warfare.


-- 
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 .
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...

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#152067 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

From"Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-30 13:45 +1000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<d7146eFm0j2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152022

"Greymaus" <mausg@mail.com> wrote in message 
news:slrnn0lbju.313.mausg@dmaus.org...
> On 2015-09-28, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 2015-09-28, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 10:36:49 AM UTC-6, D_J_E wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Teaching things in conflict with "old-fasioned religious belief"
>>>> could be pretty hard to avoid.  You get people finding all kinds of
>>>> stuff in their beliefs.  Seems like Adam and Eve had a white child
>>>> and a black child according to some beliefs.
>>>>
>>> AFAIK, the word propoganda comes in some way from an office in the 
>>> Vatican,
>>> called something like ``Office for the Propogation of the Faith" in
>>> the Latin-Italian used by the Catholic priest. Whether is is `good' or
>>> `bad.' depends on its  use.
>>
>> I'm going to go with whatever Google says, it must be right:
>>
>> prop·a·gan·da
>> ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
>> noun
>> noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda
>>
>>     1.
>>     derogatory
>>     information, especially  of a biased  or misleading nature,  used to
>>     promote or publicize a particular  political cause or point of view.
>>     "he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"
>>
>>     synonyms: information, promotion, advertising, publicity, spin; More
>>     disinformation, counter-information;
>>
>> 2.  a  committee of cardinals  of the Roman Catholic  Church responsible
>>     for foreign missions, founded in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV.
>>
>> Origin
>> Italian, from modern Latin congregatio de propaganda fide ‘congregation
>> for propagation of the faith’ (sense 2). Sense 1 dates from the early
>> 20th century.
>>
>>
>> I think in common use, propaganda is always bad.
>>
>>
>
> Not so, every message has its bias. Once you see that, you subtract
> it from the message. There is a thing on youtube, about what was happening
> on this day, 100 years ago. I don;t know if it was current, but I watched 
> it last
> night, and it compared what was reported in the Central powers, and in a
> paper published in Hobart, australia, nowhere was reported the horrors of
> trench warfare.

Not very surprising given that so many were still relying on volunteers
at that stage. Not a great idea to publicise the horrors of trench warfare
in that situation. And most of the real horrors had not yet happened. 

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#152092 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-09-30 11:59 -0700
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<760bb854-0ba4-49d3-a42f-4f542f9265cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#152022
On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-4, Greymaus wrote:
 
> Not so, every message has its bias. Once you see that, you subtract 
> it from the message. There is a thing on youtube, about what was happening
> on this day, 100 years ago. I don;t know if it was current, but I watched it last night,
> and it compared what was reported in the Central powers, and in a paper published
> in Hobart, australia, nowhere was reported the horrors of trench warfare.


The NYT archive from 1915 is open to anyone.  I checked it and found this for today:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9E0CEEDB133FE233A25753C3A96F9C946496D6CF

I believe WW I was known for a lot of false propaganda about the enemy, something that created problems in WW II when true stuff was reported but not believed because of the WW I experience.

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#152098 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromGreymaus <mausg@mail.com>
Date2015-09-30 19:14 +0000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<slrnn0ogce.347.mausg@dmaus.org>
In reply to#152092
On 2015-09-30, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-4, Greymaus wrote:
>  
>> Not so, every message has its bias. Once you see that, you subtract 
>> it from the message. There is a thing on youtube, about what was happening
>> on this day, 100 years ago. I don;t know if it was current, but I watched it last night,
>> and it compared what was reported in the Central powers, and in a paper published
>> in Hobart, australia, nowhere was reported the horrors of trench warfare.
>
>
> The NYT archive from 1915 is open to anyone.  I checked it and found this for today:
>
> http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9E0CEEDB133FE233A25753C3A96F9C946496D6CF
>
> I believe WW I was known for a lot of false propaganda about the enemy, something that created problems in WW II when true stuff was reported but not believed because of the WW I experience.
>


The US was neutral at the time, which accounts for the fairness of the
reports, I suppose. American Missionaries were the first, AFAIK, to 
report on the Armenian genocide.

-- 
greymaus
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#151965 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2015-09-28 14:56 -0500
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<muc5ud$atr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#151956
On 28-Sep-15 12:20, Dan Espen wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>> And yet, I agree with [Republicans] halfway. I think students do
>> need to be given critical thinking skills, and enabled to think for
>> themselves - in this, I disagree with them - *but*, as well, the
>> school system should abstain from attempting to propagandize
>> students away from old-fashioned religious belief.
>> ...
> 
> Not sure I agree that schools "propagandize":
> 
> Propaganda:
> 
> information,  especially of  a biased  or misleading  nature, used
> to promote or  publicize a particular  political cause or point  of
> view. "he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"
> 
> Teaching things in conflict with "old-fasioned religious belief" 
> could be pretty hard to avoid.

Indeed, at least in science and history classes.

> You get people finding all kinds of stuff in their beliefs.  Seems
> like Adam and Eve had a white child and a black child according to
> some beliefs.

Literal interpretation of Genesis is quite problematic; most of the
conflict goes away if you assume it is metaphorical.  I can't recall any
conflicts from the rest of the Bible, or at least ones that can't be
easily waved aside as a "miracle".

Amusingly, FSMers and satanists are doing a better job of fighting this
battle than atheists are.  It's funny how quickly the nutjobs decide
that maybe religion in schools isn't such a good idea as soon as other
religions agree with them--and demand equal access.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#151969 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-09-28 16:08 -0400
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<muc6k2$bdv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#151965
Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes:

> On 28-Sep-15 12:20, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>> And yet, I agree with [Republicans] halfway. I think students do
>>> need to be given critical thinking skills, and enabled to think for
>>> themselves - in this, I disagree with them - *but*, as well, the
>>> school system should abstain from attempting to propagandize
>>> students away from old-fashioned religious belief.
>>> ...
>> 
>> Not sure I agree that schools "propagandize":
>> 
>> Propaganda:
>> 
>> information,  especially of  a biased  or misleading  nature, used
>> to promote or  publicize a particular  political cause or point  of
>> view. "he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"
>> 
>> Teaching things in conflict with "old-fasioned religious belief" 
>> could be pretty hard to avoid.
>
> Indeed, at least in science and history classes.
>
>> You get people finding all kinds of stuff in their beliefs.  Seems
>> like Adam and Eve had a white child and a black child according to
>> some beliefs.
>
> Literal interpretation of Genesis is quite problematic; most of the
> conflict goes away if you assume it is metaphorical.  I can't recall any
> conflicts from the rest of the Bible, or at least ones that can't be
> easily waved aside as a "miracle".

It's interesting to hear the religious claim that the bible is perfect
containing no conflicts at all.  When I was younger, I wondered how such
a large book could be without any contradictions at all.

Then I got an education.

Starting at the very beginning, there are 2 creation stories in Genesis,
in conflict with each other:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/accounts.html

  In the first creation story, humans are created after the other
  animals.
  In the second story, humans were created before the other animals.

There are online resources that raise a lot more issues.

Of course, there is the theory that if you wave your hands sufficiently
all these conflicts can be explained away.

> Amusingly, FSMers and satanists are doing a better job of fighting this
> battle than atheists are.  It's funny how quickly the nutjobs decide
> that maybe religion in schools isn't such a good idea as soon as other
> religions agree with them--and demand equal access.

I don't think atheists care to fight any kind of battle.
They aren't on the opposite side, they just don't play the game.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#151972 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-09-28 13:30 -0700
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<0fe6ebf4-f2cc-429d-bc88-b3adf23939ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#151969
On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, D_J_E wrote:

> It's interesting to hear the religious claim that the bible is perfect
> containing no conflicts at all.  When I was younger, I wondered how such
> a large book could be without any contradictions at all.

It is confusing in that certain biblical stories are expected to be taken literally, while others are expected to be interpreted.  For instance, we don't take an errant son or wanton women and stone them to death.

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#151975 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-09-28 17:12 -0400
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<mucac4$r6m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#151972
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:

> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, D_J_E wrote:
>
>> It's interesting to hear the religious claim that the bible is perfect
>> containing no conflicts at all.  When I was younger, I wondered how such
>> a large book could be without any contradictions at all.
>
> It is confusing in that certain biblical stories are expected to be
> taken literally, while others are expected to be interpreted.  For
> instance, we don't take an errant son or wanton women and stone them
> to death.

There's that, plus the claims that it's just a bad translation.

We don't go for inherited guilt in the modern world either.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#152014 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2015-09-29 13:55 +0000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<YKwOx.78863$H64.13820@fx06.iad>
In reply to#151972
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
>On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, D_J_E wrote:
>
>> It's interesting to hear the religious claim that the bible is perfect
>> containing no conflicts at all.  When I was younger, I wondered how such
>> a large book could be without any contradictions at all.
>
>It is confusing in that certain biblical stories are expected to be taken literally,
>while others are expected to be interpreted.  For instance, we don't take an errant
>son or wanton women and stone them to death.
>

Not paying attention to the news, are you?

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#152024 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromGreymaus <mausg@mail.com>
Date2015-09-29 15:02 +0000
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<slrnn0ld71.313.mausg@dmaus.org>
In reply to#151972
On 2015-09-28, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, D_J_E wrote:
>
>> It's interesting to hear the religious claim that the bible is perfect
>> containing no conflicts at all.  When I was younger, I wondered how such
>> a large book could be without any contradictions at all.
>
> It is confusing in that certain biblical stories are expected to be taken literally, while others are expected to be interpreted.  For instance, we don't take an errant son or wanton women and stone them to death.
>
>
"well, some of us do."  (us as in all peoples)


-- 
greymaus
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#151977 — Re: Decimal point character and billions

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2015-09-28 17:13 -0500
SubjectRe: Decimal point character and billions
Message-ID<mucdup$deb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#151969
On 28-Sep-15 15:08, Dan Espen wrote:
> Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes:
>> Literal interpretation of Genesis is quite problematic; most of
>> the conflict goes away if you assume it is metaphorical.  I can't
>> recall any conflicts from the rest of the Bible, or at least ones
>> that can't be easily waved aside as a "miracle".
> 
> It's interesting to hear the religious claim that the bible is
> perfect containing no conflicts at all.  When I was younger, I
> wondered how such a large book could be without any contradictions at
> all.
> 
> Then I got an education.
> [example]
> There are online resources that raise a lot more issues.

Indeed; IMHO, such efforts are misguided because believers don't care
about inconsistencies in their scriptures and non-believers don't care
about those scriptures in the first place.

> Of course, there is the theory that if you wave your hands
> sufficiently all these conflicts can be explained away.

Of course.

>> Amusingly, FSMers and satanists are doing a better job of fighting
>> this battle than atheists are.  It's funny how quickly the nutjobs
>> decide that maybe religion in schools isn't such a good idea as
>> soon as other religions agree with them--and demand equal access.
> 
> I don't think atheists care to fight any kind of battle. They aren't
> on the opposite side, they just don't play the game.

The surest way to lose a war is failing to recognize you're in one.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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