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Re: Mercury

Date 2026-04-01 09:03 -0400
Subject Re: Mercury
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On 4/1/26 08:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 31/03/2026 23:03, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-03-31, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 12:58:52 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> LEDs have a poor colour quality. There is a figure that measures it, 
>>>> the
>>>> CRI, which is not very good but is what industry uses. Most lamps 
>>>> have a
>>>> CRI of 80. A 90 is hard to find. I have two such, in two table lamps.
>>
>> They're much better than CFLs, though.  We picked up two or three CFLs
>> and found that their light is _dreadful_.  We relegated them to outdoor
>> fixtures because there's no way I'll have them in the house.
>>
> I have even replaced all of those. I have a box full of CFLs that I will 
> bnever ever use. Dim green flickery and prone to failure.
> 
> At least LEDs are achieving a decent range of illumination spectra and a 
> reasonavly long life.
> 
> I am bot aggressively replacing all my lights with LED, but let's say I 
> am not buying any more incandescents or fluoros :-) Except the oven of 
> course, Not found an oven proof LED yet
> 
>> A 3000K LED is about as close as I've managed to come to a halogen.
>> We've been phasing drop-in replacements into our many PAR20 pot lights
>> as the halogens burn out (the halogens run so hot that sometimes they
>> unsolder their own bases).  More recent LEDs get along reasonably well
>> with dimmers (although they're still not perfect at low settings).
>>
>>> The LED fixture I have has a switch to select the color temperature. 
>>> I use
>>> the whitest possible. The incandescent bulb replacements also have a
>>> selector switch. One of those failed and tried to turn into a space 
>>> heater
>>> so I make sure they're not on when unattended.
>>
>> We have wall packs in our hangar complex that have such a setting.  We
>> also have a couple of battery-powered table lamps at home where the 
>> colour
>> temperature changes depending on how many times you tap them.  These 
>> things
>> consist of two arrays of LEDs, one at about 3000K and one at 4500K.  Both
>> arrays are turned on to get an intermediate temperature.
>>
>> We prefer warm light (2700-3000K), especially at night.
>>
> My experience maps yours fairly exactly.
> Actually I *prefer* white LED to incandescent, even to halogens
> 
> LEDS are what light bulbs always should have been, and advances in 
> phosphors are creating new spectra of emission

   I'll agree. The LEDs over at least the past five years
   have been exceptional. Bright, long-lasting (usually)
   and good color rendition. I pref 5K color and never
   loved that yellowish incandescent look. CFLs were a
   flash in the proverbial pan - you'd occasionally find
   decent ones but not usually. There was a least one
   specialty brand with a better phosphor mix, but they
   were more expensive.

   One gripe with most LEDs though is that they may START
   at 5K but soon 'warm up' to 4K or less. Maybe increasing
   use of 'quantum dots' will stabilize that ?

   Oh well, I still have a few metal kerosene 'railroad lamps'
   with the wick like Farmer Brown would have owned. Hey,
   they always WORK ....

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                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:20 +0100
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:16 +0100
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 08:48 -0400
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:11 +0100
            Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 02:14 +0000
              Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-30 22:24 -0400
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 14:14 +0100
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:12 +0000
              Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 14:13 +0100
          Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:06 +0200
            Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-30 21:42 -0400
              Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:03 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-31 18:47 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 04:52 +0000
                Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 22:13 -0700
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:51 +0100
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:19 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 21:09 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 13:41 +0200
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:38 +0200
                Re: Mercury Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> - 2026-04-01 15:53 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 13:13 -0400
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-01 17:58 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:24 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 21:33 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:36 +0000
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:41 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:41 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:46 +0100
            Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 02:30 +0000
              Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:58 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:10 +0000
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-31 22:03 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 04:37 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:26 +0100
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 09:03 -0400
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-01 17:58 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 15:16 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 21:57 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 20:18 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 22:32 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 13:51 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 13:33 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 00:21 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 22:51 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 03:21 +0000
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:38 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 06:22 +0000
                Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-03 07:50 -0700
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 11:13 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 11:06 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:51 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 14:47 -0400
                CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 12:57 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:45 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 03:27 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 04:57 +0000
                CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:00 +0200
                Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:29 -0400
                Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:20 +0200
                Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:57 -0400
                Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 22:18 +0200
                Re: CPU design Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:44 +0000
                Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:58 +0200
                Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-05 17:19 -0400
                Re: CPU design The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 12:42 +0100
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 21:57 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 17:54 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:29 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 04:58 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:30 +0100
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:46 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:22 +0000
                Re: Mercury Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-04-04 20:39 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 18:10 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 03:31 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-05 17:13 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:59 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:09 +0000
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:26 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:50 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 21:55 +0200
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:40 +0100
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:32 +0000
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 18:44 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 12:17 +0100
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:59 +0200
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:10 +0100
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 19:50 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-05 17:01 -0700
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-06 02:05 +0000
                Mandriva was Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-05 21:18 -0700
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-06 16:02 +0000
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-06 18:09 +0000
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 02:15 +0000
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 14:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-06 11:01 +0100
                CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 10:43 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 19:44 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 15:06 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:32 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 23:58 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 15:11 +0200
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 14:56 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 15:31 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 22:46 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 07:03 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:25 +0100
                The New Feudalism Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-04-03 06:33 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 10:47 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:04 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:29 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 10:35 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 07:00 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:27 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 13:54 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:54 +0200
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 03:45 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-03 18:10 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 15:04 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:13 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 00:29 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:50 +0000
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-02 20:53 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:51 +0100
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:15 +0100
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:12 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:28 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 21:39 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 14:17 +0200
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:47 +0200
          Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-30 19:24 +0000
          Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 01:49 +0000
        Re: Mercury (was: GNU) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 18:41 +0000
          Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:14 +0200
            Re: Mercury John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-30 13:18 -0700
              Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 09:53 +0100
            Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 01:41 +0000
          Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-30 21:31 -0400
      Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 08:49 -0700
        Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:19 +0200
    Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-31 23:44 +0200
      Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:52 +0100
        Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-01 23:31 +0200
  Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-30 04:33 +0100
    Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-30 04:17 +0000
      Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:52 +0200
    Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-30 16:00 +1100
      Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 01:14 +0100
    Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-29 22:28 -0700
      Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 07:03 +0000
        Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:55 +0200
          Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 19:23 +0000
            Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:43 +0200
              Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 01:12 +0100
                Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 03:56 +0000
                Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 13:08 +0200
                Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 09:06 -0400
                Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-31 10:13 +0100
                Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 15:47 +0100
                Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 13:10 +0200
      Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:53 +0200
    Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:51 +0200
  Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:15 +0100

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