Re: School stories

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, alt.books, rec.arts.books, alt.books.reviews
Subject	Re: School stories
Date	2026-04-04 13:50 +0200
Message-ID	<2ia7amxg4q.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 2026-04-04 09:52, Nuno Silva wrote:
> (Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to alt.unix.geeks?)
> 
> On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <71jusk9gmgrk5b9rccv1tq7h6ec0rs2ua9@4ax.com>,
>>> hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver
>>>>>> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a
>>>>>> libertarian school.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones.
>>>>> In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element.
>>>>
>>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual
>>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely
>>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>    I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing,  or was referring
>>> to that American activity.  He was probably talking about  the
>>> different British custom fagging
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging
>>
>> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant
>> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation"
>> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were
>> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were
>> lower than shark shit.
> 
> It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with
> "hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for
> orientation and integration purposes without harassment or
> humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume
> it's good because it can be less strong...

When I was at Uni in Madrid, at the Uni itself there was none. The 
studies were terrifying, no need to add more pain.

However, at the halls of residence (DeepL says that is the translation 
for "Colegio Mayor") it was a different story. At mine it was very mild. 
At others it was much worse.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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