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Re: GNU

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: GNU
Date 2026-04-02 05:12 +0000
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References (19 earlier) <10qg4i4$37m3h$2@dont-email.me> <1rsue6q.1hpjdy31nr7mwaN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <n32u6dFhr5bU19@mid.individual.net> <10qj52b$63en$20@dont-email.me> <vp40amx9kh.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>

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On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 20:29:51 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Our drawing teacher prohibited stencils for the letters, so we had to do
> them by hand, and they had to be good. He also prohibited the “thread
> parallel ruler” (name uncertain in English).

I never used one of those. I school we had T-squares.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-square

When I went to work we had drafting machines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drafting_machine

Yes, they do come in a left handed model and I had one. Almost all my 
drafting was ladder diagrams or electronic schematics so I rarely used the 
protractor head. I did have an assortment of triangles for fixed angles. 
The paper was graph paper with blue lines that didn't transfer to the 
blueprints so spacing was easy.

That was a lot easier than college where we used unlined paper and did 
more complex drawings like the gears on a variable pitch propeller and 
isometrics.

The 0.5 mm mechanical pencils hadn't arrived so we used Eagle lead holders 
and sharpeners.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235162606986
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1396227384/drafting-pencil-sharpener

The second is a bad photo but you stuck the pencil in the white holder and 
spun the top around. We did have electric erasers.





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