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Re: Mercury

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Mercury
Date 2026-04-01 13:26 +0100
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 31/03/2026 23:03, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-03-31, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 12:58:52 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> LEDs have a poor colour quality. There is a figure that measures it, the
>>> CRI, which is not very good but is what industry uses. Most lamps have a
>>> CRI of 80. A 90 is hard to find. I have two such, in two table lamps.
> 
> They're much better than CFLs, though.  We picked up two or three CFLs
> and found that their light is _dreadful_.  We relegated them to outdoor
> fixtures because there's no way I'll have them in the house.
> 
I have even replaced all of those. I have a box full of CFLs that I will 
bnever ever use. Dim green flickery and prone to failure.

At least LEDs are achieving a decent range of illumination spectra and a 
reasonavly long life.

I am bot aggressively replacing all my lights with LED, but let's say I 
am not buying any more incandescents or fluoros :-) Except the oven of 
course, Not found an oven proof LED yet

> A 3000K LED is about as close as I've managed to come to a halogen.
> We've been phasing drop-in replacements into our many PAR20 pot lights
> as the halogens burn out (the halogens run so hot that sometimes they
> unsolder their own bases).  More recent LEDs get along reasonably well
> with dimmers (although they're still not perfect at low settings).
> 
>> The LED fixture I have has a switch to select the color temperature. I use
>> the whitest possible. The incandescent bulb replacements also have a
>> selector switch. One of those failed and tried to turn into a space heater
>> so I make sure they're not on when unattended.
> 
> We have wall packs in our hangar complex that have such a setting.  We
> also have a couple of battery-powered table lamps at home where the colour
> temperature changes depending on how many times you tap them.  These things
> consist of two arrays of LEDs, one at about 3000K and one at 4500K.  Both
> arrays are turned on to get an intermediate temperature.
> 
> We prefer warm light (2700-3000K), especially at night.
> 
My experience maps yours fairly exactly.
Actually I *prefer* white LED to incandescent, even to halogens

LEDS are what light bulbs always should have been, and advances in 
phosphors are creating new spectra of emission

-- 
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as 
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

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          Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:06 +0200
            Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-30 21:42 -0400
              Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 08:03 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-31 18:47 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 04:52 +0000
                Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 22:13 -0700
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:51 +0100
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:19 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 21:09 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 13:41 +0200
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:38 +0200
                Re: Mercury Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> - 2026-04-01 15:53 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 13:13 -0400
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-01 17:58 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:24 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 21:33 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:36 +0000
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:41 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:41 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:46 +0100
            Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 02:30 +0000
              Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:58 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:10 +0000
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-31 22:03 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 04:37 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:26 +0100
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 09:03 -0400
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-01 17:58 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 15:16 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 21:57 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 20:18 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 22:32 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 13:51 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 13:33 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 00:21 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 22:51 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 03:21 +0000
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:38 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 06:22 +0000
                Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-03 07:50 -0700
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 11:13 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 11:06 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:51 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 14:47 -0400
                CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 12:57 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:45 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 03:27 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 04:57 +0000
                CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:00 +0200
                Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:29 -0400
                Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:20 +0200
                Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:57 -0400
                Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 22:18 +0200
                Re: CPU design Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:44 +0000
                Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:58 +0200
                Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-05 17:19 -0400
                Re: CPU design The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 12:42 +0100
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 21:57 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 17:54 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:29 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 04:58 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:30 +0100
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:46 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:22 +0000
                Re: Mercury Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-04-04 20:39 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 18:10 -0400
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 03:31 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-05 17:13 -0400
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:59 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:09 +0000
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:26 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:50 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 21:55 +0200
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:40 +0100
                Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:32 +0000
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 18:44 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 12:17 +0100
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:59 +0200
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:10 +0100
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 19:50 +0200
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-05 17:01 -0700
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-06 02:05 +0000
                Mandriva was Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-05 21:18 -0700
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-06 16:02 +0000
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-06 18:09 +0000
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 02:15 +0000
                Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 14:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-06 11:01 +0100
                CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 10:43 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 19:44 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 15:06 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:32 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 23:58 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 15:11 +0200
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 14:56 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 15:31 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 22:46 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 07:03 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:25 +0100
                The New Feudalism Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-04-03 06:33 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 10:47 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:04 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:29 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 10:35 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 07:00 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:27 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 13:54 -0700
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:54 +0200
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 03:45 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-03 18:10 +0000
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 15:04 -0400
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:13 +0100
                Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 00:29 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:50 +0000
                Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-02 20:53 +0000
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:51 +0100
                Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:15 +0100
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:12 +0000
                Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:28 +0000
                Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 21:39 -0400
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 14:17 +0200
                Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:47 +0200
          Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-30 19:24 +0000
          Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 01:49 +0000
        Re: Mercury (was: GNU) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 18:41 +0000
          Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:14 +0200
            Re: Mercury John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-30 13:18 -0700
              Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 09:53 +0100
            Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 01:41 +0000
          Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-30 21:31 -0400
      Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 08:49 -0700
        Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:19 +0200
    Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-31 23:44 +0200
      Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:52 +0100
        Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-01 23:31 +0200
  Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-30 04:33 +0100
    Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-30 04:17 +0000
      Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:52 +0200
    Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-30 16:00 +1100
      Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 01:14 +0100
    Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-29 22:28 -0700
      Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 07:03 +0000
        Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:55 +0200
          Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 19:23 +0000
            Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:43 +0200
              Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 01:12 +0100
                Re: GNU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 03:56 +0000
                Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 13:08 +0200
                Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 09:06 -0400
                Re: GNU Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-31 10:13 +0100
                Re: GNU snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-31 15:47 +0100
                Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 13:10 +0200
      Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:53 +0200
    Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:51 +0200
  Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-30 12:15 +0100

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