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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: GNU |
| Date | 2026-04-01 21:06 +0100 |
| Organization | A little, after lunch |
| Message-ID | <10qjtsb$gubk$7@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 01/04/2026 17:49, John Ames wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 21:05:46 -0700
> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> Kipling was good when I was a kid and did not understand the basics
>> about colonialism, imperialism and racism.
>
> Kipling's an interesting one; while I haven't made an in-depth study of
> the man himself (and I certainly know some Indian folks who see him as
> a cheerleader for the Empire,) there's a strong egalitarian streak in
> his poetry, and a few moments in his writing that seem to hint at his
> being maybe a little more skeptical of imperialism than a lot of his
> peers ("Mark of the Beast" in particular gets *real* close to being an
> "are we the baddies...?" moment, which is fairly shocking for 1890.)
>
My Indian friend marks him as a bastion of racial tolerance for his age.
The truth about racism and colonialism is sadly not what people who
vilify it want it to be.
The genuine affection between the English and the Indian is something
that still exists today.
> The answer may be, as is often the case, that People Are Complicated...
>
The answer may be as is often the case, that People want simple kneejerk
dog whsitle answers.
And the communists of the cold war were only to keen to provide, and
keep on, providing them.
--
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"
- John K Galbraith
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Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:36 +0000
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:41 +0200
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:41 +0000
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:46 +0100
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 02:30 +0000
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-31 12:58 +0200
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 20:10 +0000
Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-31 22:03 +0000
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-01 04:37 +0000
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:26 +0100
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 09:03 -0400
Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-01 17:58 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 15:16 -0400
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 21:57 +0200
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 20:18 -0400
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 03:33 +0200
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 22:32 -0400
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 13:51 +0200
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 13:33 -0400
Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 00:21 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 22:51 -0400
Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 03:21 +0000
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:38 +0200
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 06:22 +0000
Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-03 07:50 -0700
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 11:13 -0400
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:33 +0200
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 11:06 -0400
Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:51 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 14:47 -0400
CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 12:57 -0700
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:45 -0400
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 03:27 +0000
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 04:57 +0000
CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:00 +0200
Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 16:29 -0400
Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:20 +0200
Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:57 -0400
Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 22:18 +0200
Re: CPU design Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:44 +0000
Re: CPU design "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:58 +0200
Re: CPU design c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-05 17:19 -0400
Re: CPU design The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 12:42 +0100
Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 21:57 +0000
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 17:54 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 22:29 -0400
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 04:58 +0000
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:30 +0100
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:46 -0400
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:22 +0000
Re: Mercury Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-04-04 20:39 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 18:10 -0400
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 03:31 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-05 17:13 -0400
Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-05 03:59 +0000
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:09 +0000
Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:26 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-04 13:50 -0400
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 21:55 +0200
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-04 13:40 +0100
Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:32 +0000
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-04 18:44 +0200
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-04 19:02 +0000
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 12:17 +0100
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:59 +0200
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-05 13:10 +0100
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-05 19:50 +0200
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-05 22:02 +0000
Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-05 17:01 -0700
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-06 02:05 +0000
Mandriva was Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-05 21:18 -0700
Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-06 16:02 +0000
Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-06 18:09 +0000
Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-07 02:15 +0000
Re: Mandriva was Re: Mercury Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-04-06 14:53 -0700
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-06 11:01 +0100
CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 10:43 -0700
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 19:44 +0100
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 15:06 -0400
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:32 +0100
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 23:58 +0000
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 15:11 +0200
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 14:56 -0400
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-02 15:31 -0700
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-02 22:46 -0400
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 07:03 +0000
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:25 +0100
The New Feudalism Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-04-03 06:33 -0700
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 10:47 -0700
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:04 +0100
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 12:29 +0100
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 10:35 -0400
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 07:00 +0000
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 11:27 +0100
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-03 13:54 -0700
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:54 +0200
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 03:45 +0000
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-03 18:10 +0000
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-03 15:04 -0400
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:13 +0100
Re: CPU architecture (was Re: Mercury) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-04-03 00:29 +0000
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 19:50 +0000
Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-04-02 20:53 +0000
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-03 10:51 +0100
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-02 11:15 +0100
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:12 +0000
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 00:28 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-01 21:39 -0400
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-02 14:17 +0200
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-04-01 14:47 +0200
Re: Mercury Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-30 19:24 +0000
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 01:49 +0000
Re: Mercury (was: GNU) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 18:41 +0000
Re: Mercury "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:14 +0200
Re: Mercury John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-30 13:18 -0700
Re: Mercury The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 09:53 +0100
Re: Mercury rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-31 01:41 +0000
Re: Mercury c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-30 21:31 -0400
Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 08:49 -0700
Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-30 21:19 +0200
Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-31 23:44 +0200
Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 13:52 +0100
Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-04-01 23:31 +0200
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