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| Started by | Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> |
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| First post | 2024-09-21 12:03 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-02-28 20:54 +0000 |
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Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-09-21 12:03 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-21 08:34 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-09-21 13:29 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-21 16:24 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-24 02:45 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 07:17 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-24 11:16 +0100
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:00 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 01:44 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:46 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:25 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-09-24 10:01 +0200
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:28 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:48 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 22:32 -0400
The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-24 05:26 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-09-24 14:11 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-24 15:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-24 18:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 19:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 23:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 21:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 06:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 08:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 17:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-27 19:58 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2024-09-28 11:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 20:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 11:34 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 20:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-30 16:26 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:17 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 21:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:00 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 15:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:51 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 02:29 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:29 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-27 04:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-24 16:05 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 02:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bozo User <anthk@disroot.org> - 2024-10-11 14:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 07:58 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 19:29 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-25 17:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-25 21:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 21:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-09-25 02:45 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2024-09-25 11:03 +0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 05:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-09-30 10:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:06 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-25 17:01 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:45 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-25 21:30 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-25 15:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:31 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-26 08:47 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-26 07:49 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-26 22:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 23:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-26 01:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 08:21 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-26 08:42 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 10:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-26 11:49 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-26 18:01 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-27 10:43 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:29 +0000
Re: The joy of VAX Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-28 19:05 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX Robert Marshall <spam@capuchin.co.uk> - 2024-09-29 08:35 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-29 07:56 +0000
Re: The joy of VAX Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
The joy of VAX C Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 12:27 -0700
Re: The joy of VAX C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:03 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 02:53 +0000
Re: The joy of VAX C Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of VAX C Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-27 09:55 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-27 11:13 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 08:34 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 09:07 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:30 +0000
TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-25 15:18 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:44 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:50 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:06 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 06:55 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 09:08 -0700
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:21 +0000
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 16:25 -0700
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-09-29 23:36 +0000
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-30 00:54 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:55 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:15 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:24 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:19 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-09-30 15:44 -0600
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:42 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-01 15:57 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:14 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:37 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:49 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 10:56 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
Re: Recursion [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 01:22 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:48 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-03 03:04 -0600
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:35 +0000
Re: C operator precedence rules Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 21:54 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-03 16:34 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-04 10:59 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 12:48 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:10 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 15:39 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:06 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:34 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-02 15:48 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-03 10:33 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:30 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-03 08:59 +0100
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:47 +0000
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-03 08:58 +0100
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 21:52 +0000
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 03:46 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 11:09 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 13:52 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:27 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 15:00 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:21 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 16:27 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:43 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:58 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:15 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:51 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 14:59 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:17 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 16:07 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:54 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 03:15 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 07:43 -0700
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:23 +0000
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:40 -0700
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 21:13 -0400
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 02:38 -0400
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-24 12:27 +0100
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 21:10 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:57 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-03 00:17 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-09-30 21:22 -0300
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:31 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:38 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:43 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:19 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-30 23:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:42 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 17:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 20:01 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 04:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:13 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-25 11:34 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:08 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-25 20:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 02:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 02:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:42 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-28 07:07 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 19:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:04 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-28 21:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:22 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:01 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 11:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:45 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 08:02 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:17 +0100
Re: The joy of ALGOL-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:25 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 03:49 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:51 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-04 17:07 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:26 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:11 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-30 16:51 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-30 20:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-30 19:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:53 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 23:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 17:41 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 21:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:06 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 02:57 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 08:34 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 15:17 -0700
7-bit encodings (was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 00:36 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:16 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 16:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:12 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-09-30 21:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 07:58 +0000
Into the woods of business Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 07:11 -0700
Re: Into the woods of business vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 20:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 03:52 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-01 15:49 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 18:04 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-02 03:12 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:27 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-09-30 12:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 14:26 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 19:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 18:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:40 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-24 20:22 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 21:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 13:21 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-24 17:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-25 13:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 15:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 19:55 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:42 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 23:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-26 16:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-27 11:32 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-27 12:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-09-27 22:00 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 20:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 01:19 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 02:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 06:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 07:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 22:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-05 23:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-06 16:06 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 03:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-20 00:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-20 06:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 07:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-20 07:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-20 19:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 21:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 01:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 03:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 06:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 08:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 07:55 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 20:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 15:16 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 23:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 00:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 01:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 04:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 04:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 09:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 20:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 14:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 22:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:33 +0300
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 06:45 +0300
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 02:03 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 06:36 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 03:11 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 20:50 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 21:23 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-25 17:32 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 22:41 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 21:58 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 02:40 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:02 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-26 16:35 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-26 16:52 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 05:53 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 07:18 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-28 08:04 -0700
Re: The joy of SQL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-28 11:33 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-28 17:59 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:07 +0100
Re: The joy of SQL Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-10-26 16:44 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-26 18:48 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:52 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Mister Johnson <root@example.net> - 2024-10-27 13:00 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 17:40 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-27 18:38 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-28 02:42 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:32 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 17:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 05:39 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:08 +0100
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 18:01 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 20:26 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:46 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 18:40 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-27 21:30 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-28 00:58 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-28 05:09 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-28 05:18 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-29 04:56 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 18:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 00:14 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-30 01:24 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 02:00 -0400
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:20 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-11-03 19:19 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 23:28 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:19 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 22:13 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-04 22:33 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 23:00 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-04 14:26 -0800
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 13:53 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-06 03:35 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 11:31 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 17:59 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:44 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:55 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:40 +0000
OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-08 03:28 +0000
Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:37 +0000
Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-08 15:50 +0000
Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 06:01 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:55 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:25 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:46 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-06 16:43 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:50 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:31 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:52 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 20:10 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 03:06 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 04:12 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:43 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 18:56 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-08 22:33 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 02:16 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:45 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 19:23 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 02:46 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 22:59 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 13:20 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 14:04 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 16:49 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:40 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:52 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-06 11:14 -0800
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:18 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:56 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:21 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:52 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-07 05:11 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:50 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:09 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:05 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:17 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 19:01 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-09 20:37 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 02:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 02:08 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 08:33 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-10 19:53 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 00:29 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 19:44 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 03:03 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-12 01:19 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-12 07:47 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:19 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-13 18:30 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 00:59 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:50 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-13 08:57 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 01:08 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-14 14:16 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-14 16:06 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-14 16:08 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-15 03:04 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-16 01:04 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-16 06:13 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 01:40 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 01:55 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:21 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-31 01:35 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 06:20 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-31 23:57 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 04:14 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-01 02:45 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 20:56 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 01:19 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 06:18 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 03:21 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 00:15 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 21:51 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 23:32 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:49 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 21:48 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 23:30 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-03 20:36 -0500
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 22:09 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-05 01:54 -0500
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 19:03 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-06 19:07 -0500
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-07 03:14 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 01:52 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 21:40 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:27 +0000
Re: The joy of strong typing magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 10:56 +0300
Re: The joy of Python Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 20:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-24 17:13 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 03:24 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-10-23 14:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-22 16:07 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 23:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 08:04 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 20:57 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-23 23:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-24 17:13 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 01:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 01:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-25 17:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-25 17:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 22:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-25 22:59 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-26 09:10 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-26 12:35 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: Little old machines, The joy of FORTH (not) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-26 02:18 +0000
Re: Little old machines, The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-26 13:25 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-26 02:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:05 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-25 11:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-24 00:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 00:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 00:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 04:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 22:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-23 22:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 00:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 22:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 05:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 08:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-21 03:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Marc Olschok <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-10-24 21:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 22:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Marc Olschok <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-10-27 20:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 00:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-25 17:41 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-25 17:40 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 08:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-07 10:00 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-05 07:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 08:08 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 02:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 08:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 08:00 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
Re: python abstractions, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 18:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 02:45 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 06:52 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 12:02 +0100
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 20:54 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 09:32 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:30 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:26 -0600
Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-04 15:48 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 07:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-27 11:08 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 09:32 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-27 18:38 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:41 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:35 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:55 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:36 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 21:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:51 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 18:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-01 11:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 15:39 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-26 23:30 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 21:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 15:09 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-28 03:18 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 09:12 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 08:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:28 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-29 17:08 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:28 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 23:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 07:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 07:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 20:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:08 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-02 03:34 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-10-03 17:32 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 20:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 13:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:03 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:22 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:19 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:57 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:51 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:37 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 08:03 -0800
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 17:44 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 18:54 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 03:00 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:32 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 17:51 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:32 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-28 07:30 -0500
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 20:03 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> - 2025-03-07 04:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-07 13:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-03-07 06:46 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-07 19:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-08 03:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-08 04:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 05:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 00:21 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 08:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-08 14:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 20:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-08 22:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 00:20 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 07:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:55 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:50 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 20:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 21:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 22:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:43 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-11 05:22 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 10:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 20:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 22:50 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 04:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 02:22 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-09 21:56 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-10 00:18 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 09:00 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-12 17:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-12 17:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-12 18:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-12 19:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-12 20:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 23:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-12 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-10 12:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 08:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 09:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 09:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2025-03-11 09:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 22:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:50 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-12 14:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 20:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 21:40 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-13 13:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 00:21 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:44 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 04:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-12 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 20:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 01:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 23:53 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 04:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-13 14:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-03-13 19:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-14 03:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:27 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-14 03:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:33 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:24 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-14 17:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-15 17:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-15 19:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-15 19:42 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-03-10 08:51 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-10 21:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:04 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-12 17:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-09 18:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:01 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 15:55 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 23:05 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:57 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:43 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 21:27 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 04:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-09 10:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:09 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-09 14:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:30 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:06 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-03-24 12:41 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-03-24 12:07 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 00:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 07:54 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 01:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 23:58 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 16:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-26 19:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 22:57 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-03-27 08:09 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-27 18:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-27 03:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-26 00:02 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:57 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:21 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:57 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-10 18:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 23:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:40 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 04:00 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-12 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 20:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 23:35 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 05:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 03:17 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 16:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 00:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-14 10:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 07:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-14 14:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-03-13 04:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 05:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 03:09 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 16:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 18:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 11:56 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-13 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:21 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 01:51 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-14 18:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-15 06:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-15 09:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-15 19:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-15 23:52 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-16 04:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 06:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-16 04:06 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 18:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-16 18:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 03:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 04:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-17 00:59 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 21:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:25 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-17 00:45 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 09:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-16 05:29 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 20:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-16 21:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 23:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-16 23:35 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 05:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-17 01:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 21:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:35 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 08:00 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-17 18:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 12:05 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 21:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 14:57 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-18 10:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 08:12 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-18 16:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-20 05:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:21 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 08:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-20 18:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-20 19:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:54 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 08:24 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-21 22:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 00:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-22 00:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-22 12:56 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-23 04:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 07:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 01:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-25 11:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-16 18:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 23:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 07:49 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 07:45 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 21:16 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 15:06 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-18 04:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 08:28 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-14 18:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 18:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:19 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 08:05 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-14 16:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:30 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-03-09 03:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 01:10 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:42 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-11 05:31 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 22:17 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 04:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 02:25 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 01:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-26 14:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 19:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:43 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-26 02:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 08:37 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 01:39 +0000
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 04:42 +0000
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:41 -0500
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:49 -0500
Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 03:23 +0000
Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:41 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:22 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 00:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 18:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:29 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:39 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 07:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 07:26 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 19:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 00:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:19 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 18:11 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:57 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 17:51 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-01 01:48 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 14:47 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 20:56 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-01 21:28 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 15:21 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-03-02 02:50 -0800
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-02 20:34 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:38 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-03 00:25 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 01:38 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:01 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:38 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:07 -0500
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 12:02 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-04 01:06 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:36 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-02 14:58 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:39 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-03 01:50 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:07 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 03:04 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:05 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-04 23:39 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 00:38 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-05 03:00 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 23:49 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 00:49 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:11 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:58 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:43 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:42 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:16 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:41 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-04 00:16 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:01 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 17:36 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 02:59 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:11 -0500
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:11 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-04 19:22 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:39 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:39 -0500
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 21:11 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 04:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 00:04 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:44 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:00 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:36 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:26 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:34 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 13:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 13:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 17:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-02-28 19:56 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:54 +0000
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| From | Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> |
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| Date | 2025-03-02 02:50 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq1d59$o8fu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65890 |
On 2/28/25 5:48 PM, John Levine wrote: > Oh sure but I am fairly sure that the 360 was the first machine that > was both character and word addressable with the words at power-of-two > addresses, and a design that allowed word operationw to work as a unit > rather than serially by character. 7030 (Stretch) which also used the term "byte" (page 39 of "Planning a Computer System")
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-02 20:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq2fc1$6db$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #65940 |
According to Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org>: >On 2/28/25 5:48 PM, John Levine wrote: > >> Oh sure but I am fairly sure that the 360 was the first machine that >> was both character and word addressable with the words at power-of-two >> addresses, and a design that allowed word operationw to work as a unit >> rather than serially by character. > >7030 (Stretch) which also used the term "byte" (page 39 of "Planning a >Computer System") Sure, but its addressing was by 64-bit wurd, with elaborate address modes to handle bitfields at arbitrary boundaries. S/360 brought us the addressable 8 bit byte packaged into 16 bit halfwords and 32 bit words, using the same addressing for each. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-02 21:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq2j3r$v1q6$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65943 |
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:34:09 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: > S/360 brought us the addressable 8 bit byte packaged into 16 bit > halfwords and 32 bit words, using the same addressing for each. Did any machine offer “byte” addressability with “byte” having any meaning other than “8-bit quantity”?
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| From | ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 00:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <m2kb86Fqd8pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #65947 |
In article <vq2j3r$v1q6$2@dont-email.me>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:34:09 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: > >> S/360 brought us the addressable 8 bit byte packaged into 16 bit >> halfwords and 32 bit words, using the same addressing for each. > >Did any machine offer “byte” addressability with “byte” having >any meaning >other than “8-bit quantity”? As late as the last half of the 1980s, we ran some network operations on a BB&N C-70 machine with 10 bit bytes. It had a unix OS and I was able to compile stock "vi" on it (since it did not ship with it). As I recall the tape drive device nodes were something like /dev/mt0.8 and /dev/mt0.10 depending on what kind of bytes you wanted to write to tape... -- columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 01:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq3174$11gfj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65954 |
On 3 Mar 2025 00:25:42 GMT, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: > In article <vq2j3r$v1q6$2@dont-email.me>, > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >> Did any machine offer “byte” addressability with “byte” having any >> meaning other than “8-bit quantity”? > > As late as the last half of the 1980s, we ran some network operations on > a BB&N C-70 machine with 10 bit bytes. It had a unix OS and I was able > to compile stock "vi" on it (since it did not ship with it). Interesting. I suppose in C, the “unsigned char” type could hold values up to 1023. Code that assumed 8-bit bytes would work fine for the most part, until it started to assume things about overflow behaviour ...
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 03:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq361c$cbc$2@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #65954 |
According to Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan>: >In article <vq2j3r$v1q6$2@dont-email.me>, >Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:34:09 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: >> >>> S/360 brought us the addressable 8 bit byte packaged into 16 bit >>> halfwords and 32 bit words, using the same addressing for each. >> >>Did any machine offer “byte” addressability with “byte” having >>any meaning >>other than “8-bit quantity”? > >As late as the last half of the 1980s, we ran some network operations >on a BB&N C-70 machine with 10 bit bytes. Good point, I'd forgotten about it. It was a C-30 with two extra bits in each byte to increase the address space from 16 to 20 bits. I talked to one of the developers who told me with considerable frustration how much C code implicitly assumed 8 bit bytes. Well, duh. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <1342120109.762702202.379609.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #65959 |
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > According to Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan>: >> In article <vq2j3r$v1q6$2@dont-email.me>, >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:34:09 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: >>> >>>> S/360 brought us the addressable 8 bit byte packaged into 16 bit >>>> halfwords and 32 bit words, using the same addressing for each. >>> >>> Did any machine offer “byte” addressability with “byte” having >>> any meaning >>> other than “8-bit quantity”? >> >> As late as the last half of the 1980s, we ran some network operations >> on a BB&N C-70 machine with 10 bit bytes. > > Good point, I'd forgotten about it. It was a C-30 with two extra bits in > each byte to increase the address space from 16 to 20 bits. > > I talked to one of the developers who told me with considerable frustration > how much C code implicitly assumed 8 bit bytes. Well, duh. > C is supposed to be agnostic about data sizes, with a few specifications such as “sizeof(short)<=sizeof(int)”. This was probably a reaction against PL/I where sizes are specified explicitly, such as “bit(8) unsigned”. As usual programmers managed to sabotage this, just like they introduced character code dependencies . -- Pete
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 23:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq5eie$1h3mg$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65976 |
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 06:54:32 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > This was probably a reaction against PL/I where sizes are specified > explicitly, such as “bit(8) unsigned”. Computers had a whole range of word sizes in those days. What was the best way to write portable code? The PL/I approach was to let the programmer explicitly specify the number of bits and digits for everything, and damn the inefficiency.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 23:07 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <rsecnabYS4Id4Vv6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #65995 |
On 3/3/25 6:38 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 06:54:32 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > >> This was probably a reaction against PL/I where sizes are specified >> explicitly, such as “bit(8) unsigned”. > > Computers had a whole range of word sizes in those days. What was the best > way to write portable code? The PL/I approach was to let the programmer > explicitly specify the number of bits and digits for everything, and damn > the inefficiency. PL/I had its good aspects ... though arbitrary byte/word sizes DID imply a lot of background calx. Some outfit called 'Iron Spring' does have a Linux-compat PL/I compiler. It was an "and the kitchen sink" language kinda in the BASIC/FORTRAN idiom. Whatever it was, you could do it several ways. "Flexible" would be the modern salesman's term. http://www.iron-spring.com/
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-04 12:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <m2o8eoFdodmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #66009 |
On 2025-03-04, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > > Some outfit called 'Iron Spring' does have a Linux-compat > PL/I compiler. It was an "and the kitchen sink" language > kinda in the BASIC/FORTRAN idiom. Whatever it was, you > could do it several ways. "Flexible" would be the modern > salesman's term. > > http://www.iron-spring.com/ Iron Spring is none other than a.f.c's own Peter Flass. Niklas -- IF IF = THEN THEN THEN = ELSE; ELSE ELSE = IF ; -- Norman deForest explains the joys of PL/I
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-04 01:06 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq5jm6$81t$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #65976 |
According to Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>: >>> As late as the last half of the 1980s, we ran some network operations >>> on a BB&N C-70 machine with 10 bit bytes. >> >> Good point, I'd forgotten about it. It was a C-30 with two extra bits in >> each byte to increase the address space from 16 to 20 bits. >> >> I talked to one of the developers who told me with considerable frustration >> how much C code implicitly assumed 8 bit bytes. Well, duh. > >C is supposed to be agnostic about data sizes, with a few specifications >such as “sizeof(short)<=sizeof(int)”. I realize that early on there was a C compiler for the GE 635, but by the time the C-70 came along Unix had been running on PDP-11 and Vax for a while and I doubt any of the programers ever imagined their code would be compiled for a machine that didn't have 8 bit bytes. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-02 21:36 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq2j09$v1q6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65940 |
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 02:50:14 -0800, Al Kossow wrote: > 7030 (Stretch) which also used the term "byte" (page 39 of "Planning a > Computer System") Only back then it meant “bit field”.
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| From | antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) |
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| Date | 2025-03-02 14:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq1rmc$to24$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #65890 |
In alt.folklore.computers John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> According to Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>:
>>A lot of older machines were character-addressable. The term “byte” hadn’t
>>been invented yet. The 1401 (etc), 1620, and many 70xx machines.
>
> Oh sure but I am fairly sure that the 360 was the first machine that
> was both character and word addressable with the words at power-of-two
> addresses, and a design that allowed word operationw to work as a unit
> rather than serially by character.
>
> As far as I know it was also the first character addressable binary
> machine. The earlier ones were decimal.
Honeywell 200 has 8-bit memory units and is binary addressable.
While "intended" computations are decimal, IIRC it has binary
address arithmetic. There were several machines where 4-bit
BCD digits were addressable and which used binary addresses.
Those machines operated serially, but this was mostly at level
of implementation. Machine instructions were defined as
operationg on sequences.
360 was build on philosophy that putting more circuits into
machine can be done at reasonable cost and that extra circuits
are worth it. So, the initial idea for 8-bit characters and
24-bit words lost and 32-bit words won.
360 had goal of offering both low end and high end machines.
Good preformance at high end required fixed length words
and at least 18 address bits, so word lenth bigger or equal
than 18. IBM deemed decimal arithmetic to be necessary for
comercial market. Theoreticaly they could use character
based artihtmetic like in 1401. But that is wasteful.
Also, 1401 had 6-bit characters which were limiting for
some applications, so bigger characters were needed at least
as on option. So more natural choice was BCD and limited
1401 compatibility. With BCD it is natural to have word
length that is divisible by 4. Low end models were very
important to profitability of 360, and at hardware level
thay should operate with fraction of word length. That
leaves relatively small number of reasonable combinations:
24 bit architectural words with 8 or 12 bit hardware, 32
bit architectural words with 8 or 16 bit hardware, 36 bit
architectural words with 12 bit hardware. 36 bits could
give floating pint compatibility with earlier "scientific"
models, but othewise I do not see advantages. 24 bit
may be attractive from purely hardware point of view,
but clearly complicate things for characters different
(bigger) than 6 bits. That leaves 32-bits. At least
character processing instructions need character
addressability and since there are enough address bits
it is natural to use character addresses for all
instructions.
In seventies demand for at least 7 bit characters was strong,
BCD remained relevant, so even if mainframes would use
different word length microprocessors naturally would
tend to use 8 bit bytes for the same reasons as present
in IBM 360 case.
So, IBM may be first for specific combination of features,
but there were stong reasons for the choice and since IBM
was one of leading companies those reasons acted on them
with more force.
--
Waldek Hebisch
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-02 21:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq2j6n$v1q6$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65942 |
On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:58:22 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: > IBM deemed decimal arithmetic to be necessary for comercial market. Interesting to see a recognition nowadays that even scientific users might be interested in decimal arithmetic, too. Look at how the latest version of the IEEE 754 spec includes decimal data types in addition to the traditional binary ones.
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| From | antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 01:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq31t7$14njc$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #65948 |
In alt.folklore.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:58:22 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:
>
>> IBM deemed decimal arithmetic to be necessary for comercial market.
>
> Interesting to see a recognition nowadays that even scientific users might
> be interested in decimal arithmetic, too. Look at how the latest version
> of the IEEE 754 spec includes decimal data types in addition to the
> traditional binary ones.
Pushing decimal numbers into modern hardware is practical idiocracy.
Basically, IBM wants to have a selling point so they pushed inclusion
in standards. And apparently Intel decided to hedge its bets,
so instead of opposing IBM standard they expanded it using their
own variation. Actually, thanks to Intel standard is clearly
unworkable, so if Intel wanted to kill it it would be hand to
do better.
To put it differently, modern process allows putting quite a lot
of transistors on a single chip. Manufactures are not sure how
to use them efficiently and due to heat can not simultaneously
use all transitors. So there is temptetion to include features
givning marginal benefits, like decimal hardware.
Concerning commercial use, 1401 was intended to replace card
equipement which strongly influenced its architecure. To
have reasonable migration path from 1401 the 360 series needed
decimal hardware. But even in 1965 there were good reasons to
use binary for commercial data processing. Namely, in
typical cases most data was in "master files", stored either
on tape or discs. Keeping master files in binary would
give better density and consequently faster I/O. Computation
in binary was faster. Other input and output to printers
had smaller volume, so could use convertion. Of course,
actual usage varied between sites and on low end machines
relative cost of binary/decimal convertion was higher than
on high end machines, but tendency was to have most compute
power in high end machines. In modern times cases when
decimal hardware makes a difference are rare (if any).
Or more precisly, users want to run at high volume unmodified
old programs which use decimal instructions. But
recompilation could replace decimal instructions with
binary ones at modest preformance loss (and most of this
lost would be recoverd due to ability to run on faster
hardware). And in modern times such codes tends to be
tiny part of actual computational load in commercial
date processing.
--
Waldek Hebisch
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 02:07 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq32sh$11gfj$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65956 |
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 01:50:33 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: > In alt.folklore.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:58:22 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: >> >>> IBM deemed decimal arithmetic to be necessary for comercial market. >> >> Interesting to see a recognition nowadays that even scientific >> users might be interested in decimal arithmetic, too. Look at how >> the latest version of the IEEE 754 spec includes decimal data types >> in addition to the traditional binary ones. > > Pushing decimal numbers into modern hardware is practical idiocracy. Remember the original point of IEEE 754: it was about minimizing surprises for newcomers to finite-precision arithmetic. Does that count as “idiocracy” as well? But we still have the issue that arithmetic in binary has different rounding errors from the decimal arithmetic we all learn in school. So IEEE 754 now offers the option for running the entire calculation in decimal, from inputs to outputs and everything in-between.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 03:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <C_8xP.55481$yJX7.33405@fx48.iad> |
| In reply to | #65957 |
On 2025-03-03, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 01:50:33 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: > >> In alt.folklore.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:58:22 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: >>> >>>> IBM deemed decimal arithmetic to be necessary for comercial market. >>> >>> Interesting to see a recognition nowadays that even scientific >>> users might be interested in decimal arithmetic, too. Look at how >>> the latest version of the IEEE 754 spec includes decimal data types >>> in addition to the traditional binary ones. >> >> Pushing decimal numbers into modern hardware is practical idiocracy. > > Remember the original point of IEEE 754: it was about minimizing surprises > for newcomers to finite-precision arithmetic. Does that count as > “idiocracy” as well? > > But we still have the issue that arithmetic in binary has different > rounding errors from the decimal arithmetic we all learn in school. So > IEEE 754 now offers the option for running the entire calculation in > decimal, from inputs to outputs and everything in-between. Back in the old days, converting between decimal and binary was computationally expensive. Remember, we're talking about machines running at 100KIPS (not MIPS) or less - and even if you had hardware instructions to do the conversions, they were slow. I was once called in to a customer site to try to help them speed up a program that was running glacially slowly. This was a COBOL program that did a lot of array processing. It turns out that the author had declared all subscripts as COMP-3 (packed decimal) rather than COMP-4 (binary). This meant that every array reference required the subscripts to be converted to binary before doing address calculations. The simple act of re-declaring all subscripts as COMP-4 knocked 30% off the program's execution time. The general rule in business programming was that calculations were relatively simple, while there was a lot of I/O - most of it decimal values. It was far more efficient to leave the data in decimal: converting to binary on input and back to decimal on output more than used up any saving made by doing the calculations in binary. Worse, most machines only had 32-bit integers, which weren't big enough for many financial calculations. And even if you don't process amounts exceeding $20 million, you're screwed as soon as you try to add some guard digits to calculate, say, 12.34% of an amount. And then, as mentioned above, you have to worry about rounding... -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-03 03:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq36a6$cbc$3@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #65956 |
According to Waldek Hebisch <antispam@fricas.org>: >In alt.folklore.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:58:22 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote: >> >>> IBM deemed decimal arithmetic to be necessary for comercial market. >> >> Interesting to see a recognition nowadays that even scientific users might >> be interested in decimal arithmetic, too. Look at how the latest version >> of the IEEE 754 spec includes decimal data types in addition to the >> traditional binary ones. > >Pushing decimal numbers into modern hardware is practical idiocracy. >Basically, IBM wants to have a selling point so they pushed inclusion >in standards. ... Yes, but. Decimal floating point is not the same as binary floating point. Its goal is to provide predictable decimal rounding, which is important in many financial calculations. Forty years ago I implemented the financial functions like bond pricing for Javelin. That required simulating decimal rounding with binary arithmetic, which was quite painful. If DFP makes it easier to get correct rounding on zillion dollar financial calculations it could well be worth the cost. That's different from BCD integer arithmetic which I agree long ago stopped making sense. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) |
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| Date | 2025-03-04 23:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq82vi$1horp$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #65961 |
In alt.folklore.computers John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> According to Waldek Hebisch <antispam@fricas.org>:
>>In alt.folklore.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 14:58:22 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:
>>>
>>>> IBM deemed decimal arithmetic to be necessary for comercial market.
>>>
>>> Interesting to see a recognition nowadays that even scientific users might
>>> be interested in decimal arithmetic, too. Look at how the latest version
>>> of the IEEE 754 spec includes decimal data types in addition to the
>>> traditional binary ones.
>>
>>Pushing decimal numbers into modern hardware is practical idiocracy.
>>Basically, IBM wants to have a selling point so they pushed inclusion
>>in standards. ...
>
> Yes, but. Decimal floating point is not the same as binary floating point.
> Its goal is to provide predictable decimal rounding, which is important
> in many financial calculations. Forty years ago I implemented the financial
> functions like bond pricing for Javelin. That required simulating decimal
> rounding with binary arithmetic, which was quite painful. If DFP makes it
> easier to get correct rounding on zillion dollar financial calculations it
> could well be worth the cost.
>
> That's different from BCD integer arithmetic which I agree long ago stopped
> making sense.
First, it seems that financial rules specify decimal _fixed_ point.
So there is still extra code to get it from floating point.
I did some experiments and getting decimal rounding from binary
arithmetic was not hard. It did require extra bits in binary
compared to decimal, but "double precision" integer arithmetic
in not that hard and is a standard feature in modern compilers.
Performance of resulting code code was IMO good enough even
for rather high volume calculation. I had small e-mail
exchange with main pusher of binary floating point at IBM.
He wrote that he knows what I found (and that other people told
him the same) and the reason for decimal floating point was that
doing things as in my experiment required hand written code,
that is there were no (fast) support in compilers. He somewhat
ignored fact that rather small C++ library would give nice
high-level fixed point for C++ codes. And that it would be
rather small job to add similar thing in other compilers.
So fact that there was no fast support in compilers indicated
low demand. GNU Cobol had needed functionality, but code
was slower and IIUC there were appropriate Java classes
that supposedly were slower than what was in GNU Cobol.
Ada has decimal fixed point, I do not remember how fast it
was.
Java was probably uncurable without extention to Java spec,
but for the same reason decimal floating point would be no
help for Java from that era. Native compilers had no
such limitations, co clearly their authors did not think
that fast decimal fixed point is important enough.
Anyway, pushing hardware feature for things easily solvable
at software (compiler) level does not make much sense, but
blends well into IBM marketing strategy. And pushed floating
point has apparently only one "advantage": it is harder to
do in software than fixed point.
--
Waldek Hebisch
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-05 00:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vq86ej$23fck$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #65961 |
On 3/3/25 03:05, John Levine wrote: > That required simulating decimal > rounding with binary arithmetic, which was quite painful. If DFP makes it > easier to get correct rounding on zillion dollar financial calculations it > could well be worth the cost. Why? Double precision gives you 15 digits. That is Elon Musk calculating his wealth to the exact cent. Were there enough cents saved to pay for all that extra coding effort?
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