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| Started by | Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> |
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| First post | 2024-09-21 12:03 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-02-28 20:54 +0000 |
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Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-09-21 12:03 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-21 08:34 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-09-21 13:29 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-21 16:24 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-24 02:45 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 07:17 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-24 11:16 +0100
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:00 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 01:44 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:46 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:25 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-09-24 10:01 +0200
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:28 -0400
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:48 +0000
Re: Can't Avoid That Shit Rust - Even On Gentoo "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 22:32 -0400
The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-24 05:26 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-09-24 14:11 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-24 15:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-24 18:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 19:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 23:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 21:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 06:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 08:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 17:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-27 19:58 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2024-09-28 11:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 20:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 11:34 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 20:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-30 16:26 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:17 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 21:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:00 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 15:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:51 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 02:29 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:29 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-27 04:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-24 16:05 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 02:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bozo User <anthk@disroot.org> - 2024-10-11 14:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 07:58 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 19:29 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-25 17:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-25 21:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 21:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-09-25 02:45 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2024-09-25 11:03 +0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 05:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-09-30 10:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:06 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-25 17:01 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:45 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-25 21:30 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-25 15:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:31 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-26 08:47 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-26 07:49 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-26 22:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 23:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-26 01:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 08:21 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-26 08:42 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 10:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-26 11:49 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-26 18:01 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-27 10:43 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:29 +0000
Re: The joy of VAX Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-28 19:05 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX Robert Marshall <spam@capuchin.co.uk> - 2024-09-29 08:35 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-29 07:56 +0000
Re: The joy of VAX Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
The joy of VAX C Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 12:27 -0700
Re: The joy of VAX C The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:03 +0100
Re: The joy of VAX C rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 02:53 +0000
Re: The joy of VAX C Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of VAX C Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-27 09:55 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-27 11:13 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 08:34 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 09:07 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:30 +0000
TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-25 15:18 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:44 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:50 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:06 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 06:55 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 09:08 -0700
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:21 +0000
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 16:25 -0700
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-09-29 23:36 +0000
Re: Procedural, Functional, String [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-30 00:54 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:55 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:15 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:24 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:19 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-09-30 15:44 -0600
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:42 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-01 15:57 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:14 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:37 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:49 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 10:56 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-02 18:07 -0700
Re: Recursion [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 01:22 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:48 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-03 03:04 -0600
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-03 18:35 +0000
Re: C operator precedence rules Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 21:54 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-03 16:34 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-04 10:59 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 12:48 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:10 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 15:39 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:06 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:34 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-02 15:48 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-03 10:33 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-02 11:30 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-03 08:59 +0100
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:47 +0000
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-10-03 08:58 +0100
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-03 15:34 +0000
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 21:52 +0000
Re: Multiple Inheritance [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 03:46 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 11:09 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 13:52 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:27 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 15:00 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:21 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 16:27 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:43 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:58 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 16:15 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:51 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 14:59 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 22:17 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 16:07 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:54 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 03:15 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 07:43 -0700
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:23 +0000
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:40 -0700
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 21:13 -0400
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 02:38 -0400
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-24 12:27 +0100
Re: The Joy Of Object-Orientation "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 21:10 -0400
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:57 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-03 00:17 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2024-09-30 21:22 -0300
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:31 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:38 +0000
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 07:43 -0700
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:19 +0100
Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-30 23:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 14:42 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 21:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 17:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 20:01 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 04:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-25 17:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-09-25 07:13 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-25 11:34 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-25 08:08 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2024-09-25 20:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 01:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 02:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 02:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:42 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 07:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-09-28 07:07 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-28 19:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:04 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-28 21:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 22:28 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:22 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:01 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 11:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-01 13:45 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-01 08:02 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:17 +0100
Re: The joy of ALGOL-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:25 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 03:49 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 03:51 +0000
Re: stacks are not hard, The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-04 17:07 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:26 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:11 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-09-30 16:51 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-30 20:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-30 19:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:53 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 16:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 23:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 17:41 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 21:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:06 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 02:57 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 08:34 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-28 15:17 -0700
7-bit encodings (was: Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 00:36 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:16 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 19:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 16:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:12 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-09-30 21:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 13:15 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN-like languages The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 03:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 07:58 +0000
Into the woods of business Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2024-09-29 07:11 -0700
Re: Into the woods of business vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-09-29 20:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 23:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 03:52 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-01 15:49 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-10-01 18:04 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-02 03:12 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-29 07:27 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-09-30 12:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 14:26 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 19:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 18:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 21:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-01 17:40 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-24 20:22 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 21:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-24 23:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 13:21 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-24 17:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-24 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2024-09-25 13:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-25 15:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-24 19:55 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 02:42 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 06:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-25 07:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-25 19:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-25 23:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-26 16:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-26 20:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-09-27 11:32 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-27 12:10 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-27 14:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-09-27 22:00 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 20:17 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 01:19 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-04 02:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 06:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 07:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-04 20:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-04 22:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-05 23:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-06 16:06 -0600
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-07 03:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-20 00:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-20 06:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 07:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-20 07:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-20 19:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-20 21:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 01:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 03:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 06:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 08:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 07:55 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 20:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 15:16 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-21 23:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 00:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 01:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-22 04:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 04:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 09:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 20:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 14:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 22:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-22 15:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:33 +0300
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 21:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 06:45 +0300
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 02:03 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 06:36 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 03:11 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 20:50 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-24 21:23 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-25 17:32 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 22:41 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 21:58 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 02:40 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:02 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-26 16:35 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-26 16:52 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 05:53 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 07:18 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-28 08:04 -0700
Re: The joy of SQL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-10-28 11:33 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-28 17:59 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:07 +0100
Re: The joy of SQL Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-10-26 16:44 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-26 18:48 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:52 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Mister Johnson <root@example.net> - 2024-10-27 13:00 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 17:40 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-27 18:38 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-28 02:42 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:32 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 17:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 05:39 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:08 +0100
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 18:01 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-26 20:26 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-27 09:46 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-27 18:40 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-27 21:30 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-28 00:58 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-28 05:09 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-28 05:18 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-29 04:56 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 18:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 00:14 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-30 01:24 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 02:00 -0400
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:20 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-11-03 19:19 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 23:28 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:19 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 22:13 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-04 22:33 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 23:00 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-04 14:26 -0800
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 13:53 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-06 03:35 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 11:31 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 17:59 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:44 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:55 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:40 +0000
OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-08 03:28 +0000
Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:37 +0000
Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-08 15:50 +0000
Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 06:01 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:55 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:25 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:46 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-06 16:43 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:50 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:31 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:52 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 20:10 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 03:06 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 04:12 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:43 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 18:56 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-08 22:33 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 02:16 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:45 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 19:23 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 02:46 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 22:59 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 13:20 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 14:04 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 16:49 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:40 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:52 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-06 11:14 -0800
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:18 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:56 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:21 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:52 +0100
Re: The joy of Linux Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-07 05:11 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:50 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:09 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:05 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:17 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 19:01 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-09 20:37 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 02:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 02:08 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 08:33 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-10 19:53 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 00:29 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 19:44 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 03:03 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-12 01:19 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-12 07:47 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:19 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-13 18:30 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 00:59 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:50 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-13 08:57 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 01:08 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-14 14:16 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-14 16:06 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-14 16:08 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-15 03:04 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-16 01:04 -0500
Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-16 06:13 +0000
Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 01:40 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 01:55 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:21 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-31 01:35 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 06:20 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-31 23:57 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 04:14 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-01 02:45 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-01 20:56 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 01:19 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-02 06:18 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 03:21 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 00:15 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 21:51 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 23:32 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-02 11:49 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-02 21:48 -0400
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 23:30 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-03 20:36 -0500
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 22:09 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-05 01:54 -0500
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 19:03 +0000
Re: The joy of SQL "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-06 19:07 -0500
Re: The joy of SQL Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-07 03:14 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 01:52 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 21:40 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:27 +0000
Re: The joy of strong typing magardner2010 <magardner2010@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 10:56 +0300
Re: The joy of Python Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 20:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-24 17:13 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-25 03:24 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-10-23 14:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-22 16:07 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-22 23:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 08:04 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-23 20:57 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-23 14:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-23 23:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-24 17:13 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 01:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 01:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-25 17:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-10-25 17:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-25 22:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-26 04:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-25 22:59 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-26 09:10 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-10-26 12:35 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: Little old machines, The joy of FORTH (not) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-26 02:18 +0000
Re: Little old machines, The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-26 13:25 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-26 02:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-25 18:48 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-26 06:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-26 11:05 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-25 11:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-24 00:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 00:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 00:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:53 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 04:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-21 22:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-23 22:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 00:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-23 22:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 03:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-24 05:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-24 08:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) p.dean@invalid.net (Peter Dean) - 2024-10-21 03:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Marc Olschok <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-10-24 21:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-24 22:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Marc Olschok <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-10-27 20:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-25 00:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-25 17:41 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTH (not) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2024-10-25 17:40 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-21 08:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-07 10:00 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-05 02:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 06:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-05 07:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-05 08:08 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-06 02:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-06 03:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-10-04 08:39 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 08:00 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-04 17:06 +0000
Re: python abstractions, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-10-04 18:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 02:45 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 06:52 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-09-27 12:02 +0100
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:35 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 20:54 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-09-28 09:32 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:30 -0400
Re: The joy of Ada Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-10-04 05:26 -0600
Re: The joy of Ada Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-10-04 15:48 +0000
Re: The joy of Ada Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-28 10:29 -0700
Re: The joy of Ada Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 21:45 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 07:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-27 11:08 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 09:32 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN R Daneel Olivaw <Danny@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2024-09-27 18:38 +0200
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:41 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:35 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:46 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 05:55 +0000
Re: The pain of Excel Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-09-30 10:36 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-27 21:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 10:36 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 18:51 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-30 18:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 21:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-01 01:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-01 01:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2024-10-01 11:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-10-01 15:39 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-02 00:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-26 23:30 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-26 17:52 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 21:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 17:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN geodandw <geodandw@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 15:09 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-27 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-27 23:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-09-29 04:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-28 03:18 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-28 09:12 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-28 08:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 01:28 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 05:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-29 20:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2024-09-29 17:08 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 23:28 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-09-29 23:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 07:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 07:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-09-30 20:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-30 13:08 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 14:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-02 03:34 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-10-03 17:32 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2025-02-25 19:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 20:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 13:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:03 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 13:22 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:19 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:48 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 15:57 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:51 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:37 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 08:03 -0800
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 17:44 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 18:54 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 03:00 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:32 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 17:51 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 21:32 +0000
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-02-28 07:30 -0500
Re: the end of 18 bits, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 20:03 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> - 2025-03-07 04:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-07 13:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2025-03-07 06:46 -1000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-07 19:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-08 03:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-08 04:12 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 05:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 00:21 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 08:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-08 14:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-08 20:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-08 22:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 00:20 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 07:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:55 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:40 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:50 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 20:50 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 21:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 22:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:43 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:03 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-11 05:22 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 10:47 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 20:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 22:50 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 04:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 02:22 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-03-09 21:56 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-10 00:18 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 09:00 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-12 17:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-12 17:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-12 18:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-12 19:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-12 20:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 23:16 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-12 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-10 12:23 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:09 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 08:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 09:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 09:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2025-03-11 09:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-11 20:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 22:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:50 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-12 14:33 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 20:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 21:40 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-13 13:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 00:21 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-11 20:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:44 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 04:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-12 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 20:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 01:24 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 23:53 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 04:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-13 14:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-03-13 19:59 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-14 03:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:27 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-14 03:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:33 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:24 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-14 17:37 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-15 17:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-15 19:38 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-15 19:42 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-03-10 08:51 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-10 21:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:04 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-12 17:55 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-09 18:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 22:01 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-03-08 15:55 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 23:05 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:57 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:43 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 19:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 21:27 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 04:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-09 10:29 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:09 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-09 14:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:30 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-03-10 15:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:06 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-03-24 12:41 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-03-24 12:07 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 00:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:01 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 07:54 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 01:52 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 23:58 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 16:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-26 19:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 22:57 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-03-27 08:09 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-27 18:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-27 03:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-26 00:02 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:57 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-09 06:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 04:21 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:57 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 05:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 21:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-10 11:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-10 18:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-10 23:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 05:40 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 04:00 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 12:18 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-12 19:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-12 20:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 23:35 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 05:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 03:17 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 16:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 00:47 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-14 10:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 07:13 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-14 14:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-03-13 04:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 05:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 03:09 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 16:37 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 18:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-13 11:56 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-13 22:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:21 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 01:51 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-14 18:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-15 06:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-15 09:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-15 19:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-15 23:52 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-16 04:32 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 06:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-16 04:06 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 18:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-16 18:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 03:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 04:14 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-17 00:59 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 21:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:25 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-17 00:45 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 09:04 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-16 05:29 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 20:06 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-16 21:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 23:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-16 23:35 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 05:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-17 01:39 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 21:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:35 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 08:00 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-17 18:05 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 12:05 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 21:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 14:57 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-18 10:54 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 08:12 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-18 16:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-20 05:36 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:21 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 08:03 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-20 18:44 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-20 19:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-18 04:54 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 08:24 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-21 22:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 00:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-22 00:26 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-22 12:56 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-23 04:20 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 07:54 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-25 01:49 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-25 11:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:19 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-16 18:19 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-16 23:15 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 07:49 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 07:45 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-17 21:16 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 15:06 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-18 04:31 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 08:28 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-14 18:25 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-13 18:46 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-14 02:19 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 08:05 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-14 16:20 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-08 22:30 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-03-09 03:49 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 01:10 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-09 16:51 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-09 20:42 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-10 06:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-11 05:31 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-11 18:27 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-12 22:17 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 04:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-13 02:25 -0400
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 01:35 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-26 14:10 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 19:03 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:43 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-26 02:13 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 08:37 -0800
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-26 15:17 -0700
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-27 01:39 +0000
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 04:42 +0000
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:41 -0500
Re: where the PDP-8 came from, not The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:49 -0500
Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-26 03:23 +0000
Re: The joy of old small computers, which sort of ran FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:41 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-25 15:47 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:22 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 00:56 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 07:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:00 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-27 18:39 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-27 19:29 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 01:39 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 07:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 07:26 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:22 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-28 19:58 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 00:02 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:19 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-02-28 18:11 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:57 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 17:51 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-01 01:48 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 14:47 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-01 20:56 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-03-01 21:28 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 15:21 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-03-02 02:50 -0800
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-02 20:34 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:38 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-03-03 00:25 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 01:38 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:01 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:38 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:07 -0500
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 12:02 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-04 01:06 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:36 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-02 14:58 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 21:39 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-03 01:50 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:07 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-03 03:04 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-03 03:05 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-04 23:39 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 00:38 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-03-05 03:00 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-05 23:49 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 00:49 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:11 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 05:58 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:43 +0000
Re: evolution of arithmetic, was bytes, The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:42 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 06:54 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-03 19:16 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 23:41 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-03-04 00:16 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:01 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 17:36 -0700
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 02:59 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-03 23:11 -0500
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-04 07:11 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-03-04 19:22 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:39 +0000
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:39 -0500
Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:43 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 19:34 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-28 21:11 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-01 04:42 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-01 00:04 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:11 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:44 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-02 01:00 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-01 11:43 -0700
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 21:07 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-28 21:36 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-02-26 00:26 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-02-26 19:34 -0500
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 13:41 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-02-28 13:59 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-28 14:30 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-02-28 17:36 +0000
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-02-28 19:56 +0100
Re: The joy of FORTRAN Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 20:54 +0000
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 17:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <yhFzP.219351$FVcd.151234@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #66193 |
On 2025-03-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 10/03/2025 00:57, c186282 wrote: > >> The harmonics and overmodulation response from >> tubes IS better - at least AESTHETICALLY. That's >> an important bit ... 'technically exact' and >> 'sounds/looks good to HUMANS' aren't always the >> same thing. > > Haven't americans heard of the plural? Or is you all just plain dumb? The woke crowd are too busy trying to get people to use "they" as a gender-neutral third-person _singular_ pronoun. Arrghh... Obviously there isn't a single competent system designer among them. If we need such a pronoun (and I'm not disputing that we do), it's time for something brand new. I've heard someone suggest "xie", with "xis" as the possessive and "xir" or "xim" as an object. (You could use "xir" for direct object and "xim" for indirect object, but that's just a flashback to German grammar classes from years ago. Nominative, genitive, dative, accusative...) -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 18:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <WWFzP.219423$FVcd.171778@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #66203 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>On 2025-03-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 10/03/2025 00:57, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> The harmonics and overmodulation response from
>>> tubes IS better - at least AESTHETICALLY. That's
>>> an important bit ... 'technically exact' and
>>> 'sounds/looks good to HUMANS' aren't always the
>>> same thing.
>>
>> Haven't americans heard of the plural? Or is you all just plain dumb?
>
>The woke crowd are too busy trying to get people to use "they"
>as a gender-neutral third-person _singular_ pronoun
It ("They") has been used as a third-person singular pronoun
for more than six hundred years.
'English famously lacks a gender-neutral singular pronoun
to correspond neatly with singular pronouns like everyone
or someone, and as a consequence "they" has been used for
this purpose for over 600 years.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-10 23:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <P1LzP.309166$SZca.243740@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #66204 |
On 2025-03-10, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2025-03-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/03/2025 00:57, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> The harmonics and overmodulation response from
>>>> tubes IS better - at least AESTHETICALLY. That's
>>>> an important bit ... 'technically exact' and
>>>> 'sounds/looks good to HUMANS' aren't always the
>>>> same thing.
>>>
>>> Haven't americans heard of the plural? Or is you all just plain dumb?
>>
>> The woke crowd are too busy trying to get people to use "they"
>> as a gender-neutral third-person _singular_ pronoun
>
> It ("They") has been used as a third-person singular pronoun
> for more than six hundred years.
>
> 'English famously lacks a gender-neutral singular pronoun
> to correspond neatly with singular pronouns like everyone
> or someone, and as a consequence "they" has been used for
> this purpose for over 600 years.'
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
Perhaps, but people have often used constructs like "he or she"
instead. (Alternatively, "he/she" or "(s)he". My favourite
parody of the Political Correctness movement is "s/h/it".)
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 05:40 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <KWSdnTyi0qgry0z6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #66203 |
On 3/10/25 1:26 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-03-10, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 10/03/2025 00:57, c186282 wrote: >> >>> The harmonics and overmodulation response from >>> tubes IS better - at least AESTHETICALLY. That's >>> an important bit ... 'technically exact' and >>> 'sounds/looks good to HUMANS' aren't always the >>> same thing. >> >> Haven't americans heard of the plural? Or is you all just plain dumb? > > The woke crowd are too busy trying to get people to use "they" > as a gender-neutral third-person _singular_ pronoun. Arrghh... > Obviously there isn't a single competent system designer > among them. If we need such a pronoun (and I'm not disputing > that we do), it's time for something brand new. I've heard > someone suggest "xie", with "xis" as the possessive and "xir" > or "xim" as an object. (You could use "xir" for direct object > and "xim" for indirect object, but that's just a flashback to > German grammar classes from years ago. Nominative, genitive, > dative, accusative...) Screw that. Trump just declared that men are men and women are women and there's NO halfway, much less "just because you SAY". Americans DO understand the plural. What they do NOT understand anymore is the use of irregular verbs. "Pleaded" instead of "pled". "Runned" instead of "ran". It's annoying.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 04:00 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <XuydnWaK4feyokz6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #66193 |
On 3/10/25 7:02 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 10/03/2025 00:57, c186282 wrote: >> On 3/9/25 12:51 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> On 2025-03-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>> >>>> You don't see vacuum-tube electronics much >>>> any more - but it still has its place and >>>> uses. Found a use for a little diode-resistor >>>> logic in a project a few years ago - easier >>>> and simpler than anything else (decoding >>>> multiple switch positions after an interrupt >>>> using minimal pins, a sort of 7->3 converter). >>> >>> Vacuum tubes are still popular among audiophiles. >>> A friend just built a small amplifier using a >>> 12AX7 and a couple of EL84s. Then, of course, >>> there are guitar amps... >> >> The harmonics and overmodulation response from >> tubes IS better - at least AESTHETICALLY. That's >> an important bit ... 'technically exact' and >> 'sounds/looks good to HUMANS' aren't always the >> same thing. > > Haven't americans heard of the plural? Or is you all just plain dumb? Mostly "just plain dumb" alas .... :-) Americans are total rubes for industry HYPE. > Tube output stages overload more grcefuuklly than transistor ones do, > largely dues to the impossibility of applying large feedback round a > less than perfect output transformer. > Modern emulation amplifiers deliberately build that into the circuitry > to sound pretty much identical Maybe a FEW modern ones ... but 'valve' physics is a bit hard to emulate properly. >> China still makes some audio tubes ... as does >> some plant in the Czech Republic (made BY HAND). >> Here and there, some people or old shops still >> have big boxes of tubes - many still good or >> never used. Gotta FIND 'em though - eBay sometimes >> advertises a stash. >> > Plenty of tubes for sale everywhere, Used to be made in Russia and Czech > republic., China still, Czech - last I heard (HAND-made). Russia makes SOME, but I doubt you can get them now due to war sanctions. Mostly, tubes/valves are in the domain of the kinda wealthy 'philes. They ARE "better" for audio ... but for Average Joe they're just kinda out of reach and Joe doesn't really GET why they are better. What, 50 watts ? I can buy a class-D with 500 for a lot less ......... I've got a couple of relatively low-power monobloks someone gave me. Haven't yet put them into use. The main prob is efficient speakers. Sure as hell can't use them with magneplanars. Best match is kinda like Klipsch ... which make good use of input power. Forget the WalMart/BestBuy fake versions - the real ones are thousands of US dollars. >> I've looked into 'neo-valves' ... basically >> cold cathode jobbies where the electrons spew >> from a zillion micro-etched 'points' on the >> cathode. Beyond that they're kinda ordinary >> triodes/pentodes. A merger of old tech and the >> means/methods now used to create silicon circuits. >> >> Oh well, nukewar or X-10 solar flare, all that >> WILL still work is the tube-based equipment :-) Haven't seen much on the 'point emitter' valves recently. Not enough market ? They ARE maybe the better evolution ... run cool, low-power, long life, but with the same harmonic and overload characteristics as olde-tyme valves.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 12:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vqru1t$2jeer$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #66295 |
On 12/03/2025 08:00, c186282 wrote: > On 3/10/25 7:02 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> Haven't americans heard of the plural? Or is you all just plain dumb? > > > Mostly "just plain dumb" alas .... :-) > > Americans are total rubes for industry HYPE. > > >> Tube output stages overload more grcefuuklly than transistor ones do, >> largely dues to the impossibility of applying large feedback round a >> less than perfect output transformer. >> Modern emulation amplifiers deliberately build that into the circuitry >> to sound pretty much identical > > Maybe a FEW modern ones ... but 'valve' physics > is a bit hard to emulate properly. > Actually its very easy, but you do need to run a bigger power sipply to do it which increases expense. >> Plenty of tubes for sale everywhere, Used to be made in Russia and >> Czech republic., > > China still, Czech - last I heard (HAND-made). Russia > makes SOME, but I doubt you can get them now due to > war sanctions. Well I dunno, but my local valve (tube) supplier has dozens of makes of the commonly used audio ones https://www.watfordvalves.com/ > > Mostly, tubes/valves are in the domain of the > kinda wealthy 'philes. They ARE "better" for > audio ... but for Average Joe they're just kinda > out of reach and Joe doesn't really GET why they > are better. What, 50 watts ? I can buy a class-D > with 500 for a lot less ......... > Well yes, Its all stupid hype really. I spent nearly 15 years designing audio gear. Today a modern transistor amplifier can easily exceed any valve amplifier for hifi performance, and as far as guitars go, you can emulate and exceed valve performance for less weight and cost quite easily. Ive side by sided a CD player and vinyl, and the CD vastly exceeds the vinyl in quality But people believe what their prejudices tell them long after the instruments tell them they are talking shit My cousin made a good living building valve amps for people with more money than sense. If you are looking for quality *loud* loudspeakers, go for metal horns above about 800 Hz. Low distortion at high power and extended frequncy range makes the sound 'detailed' You don't have much option below that except some kind of round or elliptical speaker - and to be honest just buy good high quality magnet types. Below about 200Hz is big, stiff good magnets and a very solid box. Again most of what goes into the hifi market is overhyped crap. Building a good studio monitor takes money and skill and people are not prepared to pay for that and nor do they actually notice the difference anyway. Especially on rock music -- The New Left are the people they warned you about.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 19:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <CFlAP.380899$BrX.143614@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #66313 |
On 2025-03-12, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Ive side by sided a CD player and vinyl, and the CD vastly exceeds the > vinyl in quality When CDs first came out, our local FM station really hyped them. "Lasers on long play" they called it whenever they played a CD instead of a vinyl record. Everyone conveniently ignored the fact that the limitations of FM transmission would swamp out any differences between the media. And then one day one of their precious indestructible CDs skipped. I laughed out loud. Remember the TV ads where the advertiser would talk about how much better their sets looked - while showing it to you on your old set? > If you are looking for quality *loud* loudspeakers, go for metal horns > above about 800 Hz. Low distortion at high power and extended frequncy > range makes the sound 'detailed' > > You don't have much option below that except some kind of round or > elliptical speaker - and to be honest just buy good high quality magnet > types. > > Below about 200Hz is big, stiff good magnets and a very solid box. Time to build a good old bass reflex box. Efficient too... > Again most of what goes into the hifi market is overhyped crap. Indeed. Remember "Monster Cables"? > Building a good studio monitor takes money and skill and people > are not prepared to pay for that and nor do they actually notice > the difference anyway. Especially on rock music Even worse, the last thing most of them want is the good clean sound a monitor will give you. They want lots of boom - so many PAs are set up with a huge broad peak centered at about 250 Hz. It sounds like crap, but everybody seems to want it that way. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 20:43 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vqsrl4$2pqq6$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #66327 |
On 12/03/2025 19:56, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> Building a good studio monitor takes money and skill and people >> are not prepared to pay for that and nor do they actually notice >> the difference anyway. Especially on rock music > Even worse, the last thing most of them want is the good clean > sound a monitor will give you. They want lots of boom - so many > PAs are set up with a huge broad peak centered at about 250 Hz. > It sounds like crap, but everybody seems to want it that way. In terms of PA systems it is almost impossible to get efficiency AND good LF performance. A 30 foot concrete horn in a cinema type installation is good, and, if organ music or a bowed bass is your listening pleasure, labyrinth type will go down to around 80Hz. But if its bass drums or a bass guitar, you need a lot of power and a large surface area. And no reverse wave at all if possible. Enormous impractical horn best, Infinite baffle second best, bass reflex third best ... Serried ranks of loudspeakers in a wall configuration works pretty well. You always need the most power for the bass loudspeakers for this very reason. Its very hard to get the efficiency up. Another thong mots people do NOT realise is how much louder a good magnet or horn design makes a loudspeaker, and how little louder upping amplifier power makes it 10W=> 100W is just 10dB. A loudspeaker going from 85dB/W to 105dB/W is 100 times more 'powerful' -- It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house for the voice of the kingdom. Jonathan Swift
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-12 23:35 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <qO-dnX15_oz4z0_6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #66332 |
On 3/12/25 4:43 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 12/03/2025 19:56, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> Building a good studio monitor takes money and skill and people >>> are not prepared to pay for that and nor do they actually notice >>> the difference anyway. Especially on rock music >> Even worse, the last thing most of them want is the good clean >> sound a monitor will give you. They want lots of boom - so many >> PAs are set up with a huge broad peak centered at about 250 Hz. >> It sounds like crap, but everybody seems to want it that way. > > In terms of PA systems it is almost impossible to get efficiency AND > good LF performance. > A 30 foot concrete horn in a cinema type installation is good, and, if > organ music or a bowed bass is your listening pleasure, labyrinth type > will go down to around 80Hz. Piffle ! We demand 20->20 performance !!! > But if its bass drums or a bass guitar, you need a lot of power and a > large surface area. And no reverse wave at all if possible. Enormous > impractical horn best, Infinite baffle second best, bass reflex third > best ... > Serried ranks of loudspeakers in a wall configuration works pretty well. > You always need the most power for the bass loudspeakers for this very > reason. Its very hard to get the efficiency up. > > Another thong mots people do NOT realise is how much louder a good > magnet or horn design makes a loudspeaker, and how little louder upping > amplifier power makes it > > 10W=> 100W is just 10dB. A loudspeaker going from 85dB/W to 105dB/W is > 100 times more 'powerful' Most humans don't do dB ... don't intuitively get the scale. You SELL stereo gear using WATTS, even if the system is inefficient. Love those ads for 1000+ watt class-d amps for cars. They DO make the whole car body buzz, can hear it for a mile, but 'fidelity' ... umm ... young folk don't care. Had some magneplanar speakers ... they were NOT efficient (superb transparent sound though). But to get any volume you really needed 200-300 watts. To get low bass you still needed dedicated subs. If I listen to Bach I want those pedals to vibrate the spleen just like sitting with a proper pipe organ. The first subharmonics/beats from those things is infrasonic, makes the music 'visceral'. Have some donated tube/valve mono-blok amps ... 40 watts I think. I've heard them, superior, but these days it's hard to find speakers efficient enough for such low wattage. Only Klipsh seems to offer a solution, but the real ones are thousands .....
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 05:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <S4uAP.558080$_N6e.355448@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #66351 |
On 2025-03-13, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > Most humans don't do dB ... don't intuitively get > the scale. You SELL stereo gear using WATTS, even > if the system is inefficient. Love those ads for > 1000+ watt class-d amps for cars. They DO make > the whole car body buzz, can hear it for a mile, > but 'fidelity' ... umm ... young folk don't care. Hey, the car body is buzzing. What more do you want? As for watts, marketroids love inflating those numbers. Good old RMS watts don't sound nearly as impressive as peak power (twice as many "watts"). And then there are all sorts of other fabricated numbers, up to 8 or 10 times the RMS power. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 03:17 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <5R2dndtjer4GG0_6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #66358 |
On 3/13/25 1:31 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-03-13, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >> Most humans don't do dB ... don't intuitively get >> the scale. You SELL stereo gear using WATTS, even >> if the system is inefficient. Love those ads for >> 1000+ watt class-d amps for cars. They DO make >> the whole car body buzz, can hear it for a mile, >> but 'fidelity' ... umm ... young folk don't care. > > Hey, the car body is buzzing. What more do you want? > > As for watts, marketroids love inflating those numbers. > Good old RMS watts don't sound nearly as impressive as > peak power (twice as many "watts"). And then there are > all sorts of other fabricated numbers, up to 8 or 10 times > the RMS power. Ya know ... I used to be kinda 'outraged' by how advertisers warped reality. But NOW, I'm kinda fascinated. Find a 1950s book - "The Technological Society" by Jacques Ellul. By "tech" he didn't really mean computers and such. 'Technique' mostly referred to detailed scientific investigations in the 40s/50s about how humans thought/decided, mostly sponsored by biz interests (mostly). Amazon still sells it : https://www.amazon.com/Technological-Society-Jacques-Ellul/dp/0394703901/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1345802804092734&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.g2w5n3qWUvmau99HIZJjJ_2HuuGyIFaKcpKQQsE3Wyjw5Ol_BvztY-h6ErEoqETkNTKqH1Q20LwNpgRiiz7rcJjR5t_jrDgDQnXQ8EhxX0PYofoW3vunWgT0ktIcAviV5Vh76Sv2wvUITFvOkVQrNZPckXj0VcEz9I-wccABuAEjjdXXDN_oSKDyejta1KfNclMGPxEM1afKF4MbeieDw7F4wQXzS1KjzIoWIDu2Y7M.GkCsQCTJo1s9DGbwEjd1JF_ekxnfXecnY2mzY1pVyZM&dib_tag=se&hvadid=84112913820532&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=71593&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=p&hvtargid=kwd-84113035273301%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=8267_13501948&keywords=technological+society+ellul&mcid=1ae4528eff0a3399abf6f19b6fe144e2&msclkid=04b8e4c235911c79afcf8310488a8336&qid=1741847839&sr=8-1 (note the French->English can be a bit difficult sometimes) That era was maybe the first time SERIOUS effort was put into qualifying/quantitizing how to bullshit humans. And they mostly got it right. GOT my old copy of the book. Kinda re-read bits of it from time to time.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 16:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <m3gf90F30k3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #66363 |
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 03:17:43 -0400, c186282 wrote: > That era was maybe the first time SERIOUS effort was put into > qualifying/quantitizing how to bullshit humans. > > And they mostly got it right. 'Man and Technics' Spengler 'The Question Concerning Technology' Heidegger Spengler was writing in the aftermath of WWI, Elul and Heidegger of WWII. Spengler was prescient concerning the spread of technology to Asia.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 00:47 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <cticnWpkueZFKU76nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #66373 |
On 3/13/25 12:26 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 03:17:43 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> That era was maybe the first time SERIOUS effort was put into >> qualifying/quantitizing how to bullshit humans. >> >> And they mostly got it right. > > 'Man and Technics' Spengler > 'The Question Concerning Technology' Heidegger > > Spengler was writing in the aftermath of WWI, Elul and Heidegger of WWII. > Spengler was prescient concerning the spread of technology to Asia. Ellul constantly used the term "technique" - ie well-defined/quantified methods. It's not quite the same as "technology" ... which by the 20th was associated with electric/electronic and eventually computational. Anyway, Madison Avenue and friends put HUGE money and effort into finding the best ways to bullshit the most people most of the time. They kinda turned it into a science. More modern tricks like micro-monitoring brainwaves and pupil dilation were available by the 1980s. The FANTASTIC amount of money involved made it all worth it. Turn on the TV ... listen to the "Wegovy Crusade March" (and just ignore the 99 horrible side-effects they briefly zip through !). I'm so sick of it I instantly change channels when it comes on ......... Seems like most modern meds have a HUGE list of horrible side-effects ... like yer dick rotting off from Jardiance infections. Maybe the old docs "two aspirin" advice wasn't far off ...... all my old relatives who stuck to that lived the best and longest, and Granny never ate veggies for 99 years (inherited her taste buds) - she was just northern euro boiled beef & taters and a beer or two, sharp to the end ....... In a couple months I have to break-in a new doc. Don't know what the previous put in his notes. I've gotta re-explain/justify staying as clear of "modern med" as possible ... and I do have stories about relatives who rotted and died from getting on their bandwagon. Gotta be NICE about it however. INTENTIONALLY didn't get corp health insurance because of this. If you don't have a bottomless well they'll suddenly find reasons why you don't NEED all those zillion test$/procedures/meds. Gimme a Doc-In-The-Box any day ... specific issue, specific simple fix.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 10:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vr11ek$14hkf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #66385 |
On 14/03/2025 04:47, c186282 wrote: > Seems like most modern meds have a HUGE list of > horrible side-effects ... like yer dick rotting > off from Jardiance infections. Maybe the old > docs "two aspirin" advice wasn't far off ...... > all my old relatives who stuck to that lived > the best and longest, and Granny never ate veggies > for 99 years (inherited her taste buds) - she was > just northern euro boiled beef & taters and a beer > or two, sharp to the end ....... > Unfortunately I know the difference between not taking the meds and taking them - side effects and all. I've worked with my 'doc' to maximise benefit and minimise the side effects, so that its not a just a question of prolonging a miserable existence, alone. But its 8 pills a day, plus vitamin D in the winter and antihistamines in the summer and a steroid inhaler twice a day. And that only stops things getting worse. > In a couple months I have to break-in a new doc. > Don't know what the previous put in his notes. > I've gotta re-explain/justify staying as clear > of "modern med" as possible ... and I do have > stories about relatives who rotted and died from > getting on their bandwagon. Gotta be NICE about > it however. INTENTIONALLY didn't get corp health > insurance because of this. If you don't have a > bottomless well they'll suddenly find reasons why > you don't NEED all those zillion test$/procedures/meds. In the UK its a different scenario. People are getting lawyered up and if the GP *doesn't* send you on all those tests and you *do* end up with some unspotted cancer, they are in the shit. They have a prescribed methodology. As my practice chief said "in this case we normally do this immediately, then send you off for those tests, and continue treatment on the basis of what those test shows, or pass you over to the appropriate hospital department if something bad shows up". I think there isn't an orifice in my body they haven't shoved a camera down - or worse - up... My whole body has been scanned. Apart from my brain arms and legs. I get blood tests around 4 times a year at the moment at the behest of various departments that are 'on my case'. I appreciate all this, because unlike so many of my friends, I am still alive. Not in great health, but alive. -- Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend. "Saki"
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 07:13 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <DqudnRU_zvb_kkn6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #66395 |
On 3/14/25 6:46 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 14/03/2025 04:47, c186282 wrote: >> Seems like most modern meds have a HUGE list of >> horrible side-effects ... like yer dick rotting >> off from Jardiance infections. Maybe the old >> docs "two aspirin" advice wasn't far off ...... >> all my old relatives who stuck to that lived >> the best and longest, and Granny never ate veggies >> for 99 years (inherited her taste buds) - she was >> just northern euro boiled beef & taters and a beer >> or two, sharp to the end ....... >> > Unfortunately I know the difference between not taking the meds and > taking them - side effects and all. > > I've worked with my 'doc' to maximise benefit and minimise the side > effects, so that its not a just a question of prolonging a miserable > existence, alone. > > But its 8 pills a day, plus vitamin D in the winter and antihistamines > in the summer and a steroid inhaler twice a day. > > And that only stops things getting worse. > >> In a couple months I have to break-in a new doc. >> Don't know what the previous put in his notes. >> I've gotta re-explain/justify staying as clear >> of "modern med" as possible ... and I do have >> stories about relatives who rotted and died from >> getting on their bandwagon. Gotta be NICE about >> it however. INTENTIONALLY didn't get corp health >> insurance because of this. If you don't have a >> bottomless well they'll suddenly find reasons why >> you don't NEED all those zillion test$/procedures/meds. > > In the UK its a different scenario. People are getting lawyered up and > if the GP *doesn't* send you on all those tests and you *do* end up with > some unspotted cancer, they are in the shit. > > They have a prescribed methodology. > > As my practice chief said "in this case we normally do this immediately, > then send you off for those tests, and continue treatment on the basis > of what those test shows, or pass you over to the appropriate hospital > department if something bad shows up". > > I think there isn't an orifice in my body they haven't shoved a camera > down - or worse - up... My whole body has been scanned. Apart from my > brain arms and legs. I get blood tests around 4 times a year at the > moment at the behest of various departments that are 'on my case'. > > I appreciate all this, because unlike so many of my friends, I am still > alive. > > Not in great health, but alive. Super bummer dude ! But not everybody is in yer position - most seem seriously OVER-medicated, OVER-tested, OVER-charged.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-14 14:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <vr1cvq$1dglb$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #66396 |
On 14/03/2025 11:13, c186282 wrote: > On 3/14/25 6:46 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 14/03/2025 04:47, c186282 wrote: >>> Seems like most modern meds have a HUGE list of >>> horrible side-effects ... like yer dick rotting >>> off from Jardiance infections. Maybe the old >>> docs "two aspirin" advice wasn't far off ...... >>> all my old relatives who stuck to that lived >>> the best and longest, and Granny never ate veggies >>> for 99 years (inherited her taste buds) - she was >>> just northern euro boiled beef & taters and a beer >>> or two, sharp to the end ....... >>> >> Unfortunately I know the difference between not taking the meds and >> taking them - side effects and all. >> >> I've worked with my 'doc' to maximise benefit and minimise the side >> effects, so that its not a just a question of prolonging a miserable >> existence, alone. >> >> But its 8 pills a day, plus vitamin D in the winter and antihistamines >> in the summer and a steroid inhaler twice a day. >> >> And that only stops things getting worse. >> >>> In a couple months I have to break-in a new doc. >>> Don't know what the previous put in his notes. >>> I've gotta re-explain/justify staying as clear >>> of "modern med" as possible ... and I do have >>> stories about relatives who rotted and died from >>> getting on their bandwagon. Gotta be NICE about >>> it however. INTENTIONALLY didn't get corp health >>> insurance because of this. If you don't have a >>> bottomless well they'll suddenly find reasons why >>> you don't NEED all those zillion test$/procedures/meds. >> >> In the UK its a different scenario. People are getting lawyered up and >> if the GP *doesn't* send you on all those tests and you *do* end up >> with some unspotted cancer, they are in the shit. >> >> They have a prescribed methodology. >> >> As my practice chief said "in this case we normally do this >> immediately, then send you off for those tests, and continue treatment >> on the basis of what those test shows, or pass you over to the >> appropriate hospital department if something bad shows up". >> >> I think there isn't an orifice in my body they haven't shoved a camera >> down - or worse - up... My whole body has been scanned. Apart from my >> brain arms and legs. I get blood tests around 4 times a year at the >> moment at the behest of various departments that are 'on my case'. >> >> I appreciate all this, because unlike so many of my friends, I am >> still alive. >> >> Not in great health, but alive. > > > Super bummer dude ! > > But not everybody is in yer position - most seem > seriously OVER-medicated, OVER-tested, OVER-charged. It's really very, very hard to get the balance right. A lot of what is prescribed is prophylactic. Taking it statistically improves your chances of survival, but its a very blunt instrument, is statistics. Take Statins. I hated them and couldn't tolerate them and had 4 heart operations before they gave me something I could tolerate - a self administered jab of something very expensive every fortnight, that is trivially easy. My heart arteries haven't clogged up since, so it seems to work. You just have to roll the dice between stuff that leads to a totally miserable existence - beta blockers for example make you an impotent wet rag of a human with no get up and go. But you wont die of an overstressed heart. And stuff whose side effects are tolerable. Like nitroglycerin in its various medical forms. Gives you a headache a bit but stops you having a heart attack. I have over the last ten years reduced what I take to stuff that helps and doesn't make me feel shit, The latest one was a blood thinner that covered me in bruises, made my nose bleed and was generally shite. I am now 15% more likely to have a stroke, but wounds now heal. You need to quietly take control from the doctors and understand their motivations and modify what they give you to get what you want. A long life as a tranked up bumbling mentally confused idiot is not it. In the end it is your decision and if you explain why - quality of life - you don't want to take stuff and you do accept the risks, well that's OK They are beholden to you to explain what the drugs do, and their side effects too. So doctors should not dictate to you, but you are a fool if you don't listen. -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine.
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| From | Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 04:19 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <slrnvt4n5p.jqp.spamtrap42@one.localnet> |
| In reply to | #66332 |
On 2025-03-12, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 12/03/2025 19:56, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> Building a good studio monitor takes money and skill and people >>> are not prepared to pay for that and nor do they actually notice >>> the difference anyway. Especially on rock music >> Even worse, the last thing most of them want is the good clean >> sound a monitor will give you. They want lots of boom - so many >> PAs are set up with a huge broad peak centered at about 250 Hz. >> It sounds like crap, but everybody seems to want it that way. > > In terms of PA systems it is almost impossible to get efficiency AND > good LF performance. > A 30 foot concrete horn in a cinema type installation is good, and, if > organ music or a bowed bass is your listening pleasure, labyrinth type > will go down to around 80Hz. > But if its bass drums or a bass guitar, you need a lot of power and a > large surface area. And no reverse wave at all if possible. Enormous > impractical horn best, Infinite baffle second best, bass reflex third > best ... > Serried ranks of loudspeakers in a wall configuration works pretty well. > You always need the most power for the bass loudspeakers for this very > reason. Its very hard to get the efficiency up. > > Another thong mots people do NOT realise is how much louder a good > magnet or horn design makes a loudspeaker, and how little louder > upping amplifier power makes it > > 10W=> 100W is just 10dB. A loudspeaker going from 85dB/W to 105dB/W is > 100 times more 'powerful' The summer after high school, I built 3 (yes, an odd number) cabinets of the Altec A-7 design from the drawings and measurements photocopied from a library book. While they weren't King Klipsch, they did quite nicely on the title track of Chuck Mangione's "Children of Sanchez" soundtrack, Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", Isao Tomita's "The Planets", and many others with 25-50W per channel (home designed and built amp). The drivers were rather low quality relative to real Altec drivers, but they did okay. Oh, the third speaker was center, L+R, and relative gain carefully adjusted for optimum imaging. The center speaker was the one I used for the yearly candle-puffing ceremony. The kick drum on Chicago's "Saturday in the Park" would puff out a small candle placed just in front of the woofer cone. Sadly, had to sell two of the three to a movie theater a few years later. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 05:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <T4uAP.558085$_N6e.31074@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #66353 |
On 2025-03-13, Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> wrote: > Oh, the third speaker was center, L+R, and relative gain carefully > adjusted for optimum imaging. The center speaker was the one I > used for the yearly candle-puffing ceremony. The kick drum on > Chicago's "Saturday in the Park" would puff out a small candle > placed just in front of the woofer cone. Inspired by an article in a hi-fi magazine, a friend bought a third speaker and we hooked it across the hot terminals of the other two, so it got a L-R signal. We put it behind us, and got all sorts of interesting effects. The Poco album "Crazy Eyes" had a note on the cover: "Some banjo and dobro tracks may cancel if played in mono." On our three-speaker setup, the banjo walked right around behind us. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 03:09 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <_LadnYkDg_cJGU_6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #66359 |
On 3/13/25 1:31 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-03-13, Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> wrote: > >> Oh, the third speaker was center, L+R, and relative gain carefully >> adjusted for optimum imaging. The center speaker was the one I >> used for the yearly candle-puffing ceremony. The kick drum on >> Chicago's "Saturday in the Park" would puff out a small candle >> placed just in front of the woofer cone. > > Inspired by an article in a hi-fi magazine, a friend bought a > third speaker and we hooked it across the hot terminals of the > other two, so it got a L-R signal. We put it behind us, and got > all sorts of interesting effects. The Poco album "Crazy Eyes" > had a note on the cover: "Some banjo and dobro tracks may cancel > if played in mono." On our three-speaker setup, the banjo walked > right around behind us. Ha Ha ... all sorts of sensory-deception tricks are possible. But, remember the huge "quadraphonic" sales BS in the 70s/80s ? I think "Quadraphrenia" was named for it. It NEVER lived up to the hype - just More Expensive. Have a good CD of an R.E.M. album that, one song, features the sound of a manual typewriter at the start. On good, magneplanar, speakers the realism was just CONVINCING to the extreme, almost shocking. Alas those speakers used a cheap glue to stick the wires to the plastic membranes - and the glue eventually FAILS. NOT good. Did find a "how to fix" tutorial, but it's EXTENSIVE work. Moved to Vandersteens for awhile, then kinda lost interest in ultra-hi-fi. Besides, my penchants for magnum pistols and motorcycles kinda degraded the old eardrums. Was 20->24000 in my youth (flyback transformer noise was nasty) but no more.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-03-13 16:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The joy of FORTRAN |
| Message-ID | <m3gfuoF30k3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #66362 |
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 03:09:05 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Ha Ha ... all sorts of sensory-deception tricks are possible. I remember the records when 'stereo' was first coming on the market that would create the impression of a freight train driving through the living room. It might be my ears or my less than stellar sound systems but it seems some of the more pronounced effects of the '60s have been toned down. A the time I had a decent turntable, amp, and speakers I'd built. I think it was one of the Rolling Stone songs that starts with a car horn. A friend who I was demoing the system to thought it was somebody out in the driveway. Like you I got into ear protection at the range and motorcycle helmets a little too late in life. Even in my youth I recognized some of the high frequencies audiophiles oohed over would benefit the cat more than me.
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