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| Date | 2012-03-24 15:56 -1000 |
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| From | "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> |
| Organization | FORTH, Inc. |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Which standard? |
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On 3/24/12 2:43 PM, Hans Bezemer wrote: > Rod Pemberton wrote: > >> "Hans Bezemer"<the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> wrote in message >> If one is "doing his/her AND thingy with any integer" and it's *known* >> that Forth's AND OR XOR and INVERT are binary operations, not logical >> operations, why would anyone assume that a proper flag is returned? > Someone that is (self)assured that binary operations are a valid way to > treat a flag. > >>> There's a lot of Forth code that works - just not elegantly. >> It's nice to meet another C programmer here ... > I touch C only to update my compiler or make a quick fix when compiling. > >> If you like C's operators, why don't you define all the C binary >> operators, logical operators, and assignment operators for Forth and use >> them? It should be quite easy to define them and use them. I was >> considering doing it myself, eventually. > Sure, introduce some more non-standard operators. I consider it the task of > a TC to notice and clean up that gap instead of continuing it. Would it > have been so hard to make a family of logical operators? Now we have 0<> to > fill the gap - ugly word. Why not NOT, ANY, BOTH on one side and INVERT, > AND and OR on the other side? A set of logical operators would largely have > killed the need for 0= and 0<> - and taken one word more. Big deal. It's the job of the TC to respond to needs expressed by a broad spectrum of users. It is certainly not their job to "notice" opportunities to make Forth "look more like C". Frankly, there was no demand for an additional set of logical operators in the early 90's, and AFAIK there's not much now, except for your request. There is certainly a persistent need for 0=, to test for a value equal to zero. I'll admit there's not much need for 0<>, it's there for the contingent that worships symmetry. Although I've used 0= extensively, I don't think I've ever felt a need for 0<>. > We could have been writing code like: > > r@ 3 /mod swap not both both > > Instead of: > > r@ 3 /mod 0<> swap 0= and and > > It may be me, but I understand the first one better. It looks better too. I don't understand the first at all, so there. Cheers, Elizabeth -- ================================================== Elizabeth D. Rather (US & Canada) 800-55-FORTH FORTH Inc. +1 310.999.6784 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90045 http://www.forth.com "Forth-based products and Services for real-time applications since 1973." ==================================================
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Re: Which standard? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2012-03-24 17:24 -0400
Re: Which standard? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-03-24 14:18 +0000
Re: Which standard? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:33 +0100
Re: Which standard? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-03-26 03:25 +0200
Re: Which standard? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-03-25 21:40 -0700
Re: Which standard? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-03-22 04:15 -0500
Re: Which standard? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201203.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-03-22 13:02 +0100
Re: Which standard? Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2012-03-25 08:51 -0700
Re: Which standard? jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2012-03-26 22:14 -0700
Re: Which standard? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-26 23:55 -0700
Re: Which standard? Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2012-03-27 05:41 -0700
Re: Which standard? hwfwguy@gmail.com - 2012-03-27 08:45 -0700
Re: Which standard? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-03-28 01:42 +0200
Re: Which standard? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-03-31 13:46 +0000
Re: Which standard? Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-27 22:51 -0700
Re: Which standard? jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2012-03-27 19:33 -0700
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