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| Message-ID | <68d087a6@news.ausics.net> (permalink) |
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
| Subject | Re: The "Standards" Game |
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
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| Date | 2025-09-22 09:17 +1000 |
| Organization | Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 16/09/2025 18:50, Paul wrote: >> While every quanta of nuclear is worth something, it's a pretty slow >> way to achieve a "step change in output". If there was a real BEV mandate, >> you'd never get there with a forest of SMR and holes-in-the-ground and >> cooleo-tunnels. As it is, I doubt we can keep up with the "retirement rate" >> of the existing reactors. > > In fact if a given SMR is type approved, they can be kicked out of > factories at a one a week basis if the demand is there. I'm sure they're easier to "type approve" in some countries like China and Russia. Who is kicking them out once a week in those markets? > It's no worse that e.g, a Boeing aircraft. Do naval nuclear reactors cost less than Boeing's military aircraft? I never have much luck finding real numbers since it seems nobody likes to talk about it publicly, although using nuclear power for a naval ship has been estimated for the US congress in 2008 to add $600-800 million to the cost of building it: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/RL33946_%28IA_RL33946-crs%29.pdf The Russians have presumably "type approved" one of their icebreaker reactors for SMR use since they've had two working as a power station on a barge since 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLT-40 I'm not sure if any western company has even got that far, yet the Russians still haven't followed that up with another one even though they're apparantly busy building eight reactors to an improved design: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RITM-200 Unless one of these SMR companies can explain the breakthrough they've made which changes the rules for how quickly and cheaply one of these reactors can be built, I'm highly skeptical. Where I've looked they all seem to explain exceptionally little of the manufacturing details, so I suspect it's all bluff. But I'd like to be surprised. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-16 03:35 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-09-16 21:04 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-16 18:47 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-16 13:50 -0400
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 19:01 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-16 14:36 -0400
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 09:54 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-09-22 09:17 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 11:46 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-22 16:05 -0400
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:03 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-09-23 21:03 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:35 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:23 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:30 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:03 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:29 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:17 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-09-24 18:43 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:15 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:13 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:06 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-22 18:17 -0600
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-09-23 21:23 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:37 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:21 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 14:31 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:29 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:59 +0000
Submarine testing. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 21:54 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:39 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:00 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:05 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:29 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:28 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 22:26 +0200
Opening a submarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 22:02 +0200
Re: Opening a submarine Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 15:26 -0700
Re: Opening a submarine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 23:31 +0000
Re: Opening a submarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:16 +0200
Re: Opening a submarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 09:53 +0100
Re: Opening a submarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:23 +0200
Re: Opening a submarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:20 +0100
Re: Opening a submarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:26 +0200
Re: Opening a submarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:35 +0100
Re: Opening a submarine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 17:23 +0000
Re: Opening a submarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:31 +0200
Re: Opening a submarine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 04:18 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 16:44 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:24 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-09-23 08:55 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:17 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:58 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-09-24 09:57 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:35 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:51 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:41 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-24 13:49 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 15:21 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-25 10:10 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:43 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-25 13:16 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:09 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-09-26 09:35 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:56 +0100
Nuclear plants. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 22:12 +0200
Re: Nuclear plants. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 15:20 -0700
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:11 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-25 07:25 -0400
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 12:58 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-25 08:11 -0700
Re: Nuclear plants. knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-25 13:19 -0400
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:00 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 04:53 +0000
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 11:10 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:06 -0400
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:51 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 18:50 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:29 +0200
Re: Nuclear plants. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-25 12:53 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:48 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:26 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 20:44 +0200
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:21 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-25 08:17 -0700
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 18:54 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 18:07 +0000
Re: Nuclear plants. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 20:48 +0200
Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 04:33 +0000
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:26 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-25 13:51 -0700
Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 04:47 +0000
Re: Nuclear plants. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:25 -0400
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:06 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 04:56 +0000
Re: Nuclear plants. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-25 22:52 -0700
Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 06:47 +0000
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 11:22 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:00 +0100
Re: Nuclear plants. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:33 +0200
Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:47 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-16 21:52 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-16 16:42 -0400
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 01:45 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-17 11:46 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 01:33 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 15:14 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 18:21 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 19:30 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 03:47 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 21:06 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:30 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:12 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 09:47 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 18:23 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:34 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:34 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:30 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 11:50 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 01:31 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-09-17 22:36 -0400
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 20:56 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:55 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 02:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 02:41 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-17 20:59 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:18 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 19:48 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 15:04 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 17:15 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 04:18 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:24 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 03:43 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 22:35 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-19 11:01 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 11:19 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-19 12:54 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 13:04 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-09-19 17:07 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 17:34 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 18:06 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-19 07:19 -0700
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 18:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 17:55 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 17:49 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:44 +0200
Re: The "Standards" Game Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:22 +0000
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