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Re: The "Standards" Game

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: The "Standards" Game
Date 2025-09-17 11:46 +0200
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On 2025-09-16 22:42, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 9/16/2025 3:52 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>>
>> How warm or hot will be the water inside the tunnel? The tunnel is very large diameter, that's a lot of water. They could use it to warm houses instead.
>>
>> Also, where does the intake water come from, another tunnel?
>>
> 
> This is a simplified description of what they're building. The total tunnel length
> is part for intake, part for outlet, and "some sort of diffuser" at the outlet.
> That's where you cook your lobsters.
> 
>     https://www.opg.com/projects-services/projects/nuclear/smr/darlington-smr/news/whats-going-on-in-the-lake/
> 
> The reactor is supposed to remain stable for up to seven days, on a cooling failure.
> 
> Presumably, the level of the tunnel system, will have some orientation to the ass-end
> of the cylinder, or the underneath of the turbine hall. Maybe after another 20 web sites,
> we will have enough info to make a diagram.
> 
> The PowerPoint slide I've seen, the "building" is the turbine hall, and it is likely
> the scale was a wee bit off. The cylinder is likely to be mostly below grade
> by the looks of it. Which is why the PowerPoint slides, never really looked
> like a nuclear project, as they neglected to show a cut-away of how the cylinder
> will be arranged. The site work right now is more likely to be concentrated
> on the cylinder mounting, rather than the rest of it.
> 
> It will be interesting, eventually, to discover just what the Z-axis offset is
> for the cylinder. How far below grade it is. Part of the reason submergence
> is required, is for survivability to a 9-11 style attack. Regular reactors,
> the outer housing has some sort of survivability spec to aircraft attack.
> These toy reactors, will be using dirt to protect them.
> 
> Every nuclear industry has a "style", and ours does not like cooling towers
> for some reason. I think most of the installs used a water flow.
> 
> There have been plans for central heating or central cooling, arranged
> around lake water cooling systems, so they don't necessarily throw away
> all the heat from their little projects. There is a heating project down town
> for example, where one series of buildings needed heat, and the pipe was
> extended to some other buildings. We don't make a fetish out of these
> projects, but they do happen, and without a lot of fanfare.
> 
> My university had "central heating", a building with a large tower
> that burned a fossil fuel, and heating pipes traveled via tunnels, to other
> buildings on campus. This is why when I was doing lab work in the chem building,
> and I would start a run, the temperature would change, like 15C between start
> and end of a run, I would be sweating gumdrops, because the radiators were
> uncontrollable and just roasted the living shit out of where I was working.
> That's what "central heating" means to me.

There are thermostats :-D

Here they are mandatory on bedrooms, simple mechanical devices. But 
there are also electronic controlled models.

https://share.google/images/4N7dC89BV5rmmddcq

> 
> IDK if this is a good map view, but this gives some idea of the scale
> of the area. It is likely five clicks to a population area that could
> use the heat, for a central heating plan. You can see how big the
> lobster boiling area is :-) The diffuser will be some distance from shore.
> 
> https://newnuclear-darlington.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/7/3/26731090/35273.jpg?625
> 
>     Paul


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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