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From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: GNU
Date 2026-03-19 13:57 +0100
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On 2026-03-19 01:13, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:57:04 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
>> If the USA did embrace any State Religion it would not be the USA
>> any longer and I would not support such a change to our secular
>> Republic.
> 
> The US embraced capitalism as the State Religion long ago. The
> question is if that has staying power. 275 years isn't a long time
> in the history of civilizations.

<https://www.publico.es/sociedad/m-ambiente/cientificos-cuestionan-dogma-capitalismo-posible-alto-grado-bienestar-crecimiento-economico.html>

Scientists challenge the dogma of capitalism: a ‘high standard of 
living’ is possible without economic growth

A study led by the Autonomous University of Barcelona shows that 
perpetual growth is not necessary if priority is given to the 
redistribution of wealth and the production of essential resources.

     Adhik Arrilucea

Madrid 17/03/2026 21:45

Economic growth and sustainable development are the driving forces 
behind Western societies seeking to maintain their upward trends in the 
accumulation of resources and wealth. But this is not the only paradigm 
that exists. For some time now, new ways of imagining other possible 
worlds have become popular. Thus, social movements, science and 
philosophy have pursued research into degrowth. In contrast to current 
policies, this approach takes the planet’s limits into account and 
argues that, through fair redistribution, it is possible to live with 
dignity and have all our needs met without increasing production.

These theories and approaches are not new. In November 2023, Letizia 
Ortiz herself went so far as to cite ecologists such as CSIC scientist 
Antonio Turiel. She acknowledged the development of ideas according to 
which “development and sustainability can no longer go hand in hand”. 
She did so during the 16th International Seminar on Language and 
Journalism, where she was accompanied, among other figures, by the then 
Minister for Digital Transformation, José Luis Escrivá. He retorted, 
however, that degrowth postulates ‘appear to be extremely weak in their 
foundations’. Nevertheless, experts have continued to develop a 
theoretical framework along these lines capable of analysing the reality 
of the climate crisis in all its aspects.

A new study led by scientists from the Institute of Environmental 
Science and Technology at the Autonomous University of Barcelona 
(ICTA-UAB) explores how to achieve “high well-being” and a 
climate-resilient future without economic growth. The paper, published 
in Nature Climate Change, is a perspective piece. In other words, it is 
not a conventional case study, where a specific issue is investigated – 
to which a methodology is applied to obtain results from which 
conclusions are drawn. However, it undergoes the same peer-review 
process as standard articles.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)


<https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-026-02580-6>



     Perspective
     Published: 13 March 2026

Principles for a post-growth scenario of ambitious mitigation and high 
human well-being

     Aljoša Slameršak, Vivien Fisch-Romito, Jason Hickel, Jarmo S. 
Kikstra, Joel Millward Hopkins, Yannick Oswald & Julia Steinberger

Nature Climate Change (2026)Cite this article

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Abstract

Most climate mitigation scenarios maintain inequalities and associate 
favourable social and climate outcomes with continuing economic growth. 
By contrast, post-growth scholarship advocates for reducing 
less-necessary production, reorienting the economy towards human needs 
and ecological goals, and pursuing equitable convergence within and 
between countries. Here we synthesize recent advances in post-growth 
research into five core principles: well-being, sufficiency, reduced 
inequalities, repurposing of the economy and north–south convergence. 
Existing post-growth scenarios tend to fall short of considering, let 
alone implementing, these key elements. We assess feasibility barriers, 
finding that post-growth will face weaker geophysical and technological 
constraints, but stronger socio-cultural and political opposition, than 
growth-oriented scenarios. Advances in post-growth research, alongside 
international calls for mitigation rooted in fairness and equity, 
present a strong case for a holistic development of post-growth scenarios.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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