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Re: GNU

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: GNU
Date 2026-03-19 18:56 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 19/03/2026 16:45, Sn!pe wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> Whether the inverter follows the grid or leads it is dependent on
>> whether it has access to stored energy to enable it to do that thing
>>
>> Don't fall for pseudo technical bullshit.
>>
>> The nub of the problem is that renewable energy of the solar and wind
>> sort has zero or close to zero energy stored in kinetics, and its output
>> is massively variable on sub minute timescales.
>>
>> It needs energy storage to stabilise the output - to absorb the peaks
>> and fill in the troughs.
>>
>> If that energy is a battery, yes it will have an inverter that can lead
>> the grid.  But that is not the issue.
>>
>> The issue is that renewable energy of the intermittent kind *cannot
>> operate alone* as a source of stable reliable electricity.
>>
>> Whether is is backed up by expensive spinning reserves, or expensive
>> batteries, it beeds access to very fast reacting storage.
>>
>> This is the fundamental point, not the detailed technical description of
>> how this storage is utilised.
>>
>> And it drives a fundamental stake through the heart of the claim that
>> 'renewable energy is cheap because the sun and wind are free'
>>
>> Even if the technology were cheap (which it is not) the infrastructure
>> to enable it to work is extremely expensive and the backup systems and
>> maintenance are scarcely zero carbon
>>
>> Look at the poor gas power stations that Carlos blames for not running
>> spinning reserve when they are supposed to. Why would they? They are
>> burning gas, wearing out their turbines and repaying debt on the
>> principal used to construct them, but not receiving a penny for the
>> electricity *they are not allowed to generate, because 'renewables by
>> law must take precedence*.
>>
>> It isn't worth their while to operate at all. It certainly isn't worth
>> capital to invest in efficient combined cycle ones.
>>
>> In fact it is far cheaper to throw in simple diesel generators at 40%
>> thermal efficiency to fill the air with CO2. Or open cycle gas at
>> similar efficiencies. And bang goes *all* the carbon savings of
>> 'renewables', once you add in the insane maintenance costs of e.,g
>> windmills that is done using diesel vehicles to access them...
>>
>> *Holistically* renewable grids are about 2-5 times more expensive than
>> gas, coal or nuclear and represent  no overall global  carbon emissions
>> reduction *at all*.
>>
>> How do I know this? It's not because I am some sort of far right
>> Believer. It is because I have am  honours masters degree in electrical
>> engineering and have done my own research and calculations over the last
>> decade and a half.
>>
> 
> I've followed your argument elsewhere for several years; the points you
> make are compelling.  My own small experience of this stuff was nearly
> 60 years ago (test-synching local standby 1 MW diesel generators to the
> 11kV grid) so I'm long out of date.
> 
Thank you. What one learns as an engineer is not how much great new 
stuff there is, but how little and how few natural laws govern what is 
possible.
In my lifetime one of the two or three real breakthroughs that depend on 
Quantum physics being the way it is, have come to pass. In particular 
the semiconductor. The transistor and friends.

This has massively reshaped what is possible with machines. But it has 
no bearing on power generation.  Which has remained the same since the 
19th century. Basically you spin coils in the presence  of magnets.

Photocells are to be sure quantum level devices, but we have always had 
sunlight and wind, as  power sources, but simply failed to use them 
precisely because they are not reliable.

And they are not reliable not because the technology is imperfect, and 
can be fixed by 'new technology' but because unlike hydro coal oil gas 
or nuclear, the primary energy *cannot be stored*.

Which means they *always* have to be used in conjunction with some other 
form of energy storage. And that MUST be included in the cost before you 
can compare them to thermal or hydroelectric power stations.

The fact that their advocates absolutely refuse  to do this is simple 
evidence of their mendacity.

Hence their use of emotional arguments like 'far right' 'climate denier' 
'in the pay of big oil' to cancel the truth and let their lies prevail.

When none of these have any bearing whatsoever on the technical 
arguments about the various power generation technologies, or their costs.

Hitler was a vegetarian (and farted like a two stroke) Should I use his 
racist and political convictions to 'cancel' anybody who  likes raw 
carrots? Should I call anyone with IBS a 'fascist Nazi' ?




-- 
"Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

― Confucius

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