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Re: GNU

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: GNU
Date 2026-03-22 03:19 +0100
Message-ID <37049mxvst.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (22 earlier) <u2tirkdf5go1jonupadpdoje5jj22rvit8@4ax.com> <d6uo8mxm8o.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1rs9q42.1kx6c2g1st83xnN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <gm839mx25s.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1rscbyq.16ibu7476l1mN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>

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On 2026-03-21 22:32, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-03-20 12:39, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-03-17 16:43, Rich Ulrich wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 10:21:47 +1100, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> This sounds like a north/south navigation problem, but it's also an
>>>>>> east/west problem. Sailing across the Indian Ocean, you need to know
>>>>>> when to expect to see land. If you don't see it, you've either misjudged
>>>>>> your longitude or you're wandering into the Roaring Forties.
>>>>>
>>>>> The check on north-south, by the sun, is only at noon each day, yes?
>>>>
>>>> You might use another time, but you have to know exactly how much off-noon.
>>>
>>> For which you would need a previous fix,
>>> and a knowledge of how you have moved in the meantime.
>>>
>>>> In one Jules Verne novel, they measure the height of the sun at another
>>>> time, because it was cloudy, but they took two measures at both sides of
>>>> the noon, in order to estimate the height of the sun at the exact noon.
>>>
>>> Verne's expositions on science must sometimes be taken
>>> with more than one grain of salt,
>>>
>>> Jan
>>> (but don't have this one)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Verne was not a scientist, but he asked others. He wrote a lot about
>> calculating the position. Probably he could not do the calculation
>> himself, but he was familiar with the general procedures.
> 
> Verne could certainly do the sums needed for ordinary navigation.
> In his rich years he owned a private yacht, [1]
> and travelled widely in Europe,
> 
> Jan
> [1] Several in fact. He started with a small boat.
> As he got richer he bought bigger ones.
> 

Wow. I did not know that.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: GNU Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-17 11:43 -0400
  Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-17 22:37 +0100
    Re: GNU Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-17 18:43 -0400
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    Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-18 02:19 +0000
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                Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-19 13:34 +0100
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                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 11:32 +0100
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                Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 12:19 +0000
                Re: GNU Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 17:36 -0700
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                Re: GNU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-18 19:16 -0700
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            Re: GNU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-18 18:02 +0000
              Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-19 00:24 +0000
                Re: GNU lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2026-03-18 22:48 -0600
          Re: GNU Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-03-18 22:45 +0100
            Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 10:01 +0100
      Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-18 11:42 +0100
    Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 12:39 +0100
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        Re: GNU Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-21 20:22 +0000
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          Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-22 03:19 +0100
            Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-22 10:52 +0100
              Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-22 15:12 +0100
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-22 18:37 +0100
                Re: GNU Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-22 16:31 -0400
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-22 23:31 +0100
                Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 23:18 +0000
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-23 11:57 +0100
                Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-23 22:15 +1100
                Re: GNU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:30 +0000
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-23 13:55 +0100
                Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-24 09:15 +0000
                Re: GNU Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-24 10:17 +0000
                Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-24 22:01 +1100
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-24 12:31 +0100
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-24 11:49 +0100
                Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-24 21:57 +1100
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-24 12:41 +0100
                Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-24 22:17 +0000
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                Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-24 09:14 +0000
                Re: GNU Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-03-24 10:27 +0000
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-24 11:49 +0100
                Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-24 22:20 +0000
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                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-25 12:45 +0100
                Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-27 01:40 +0000
                Re: GNU nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-27 10:29 +0100
                Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:34 +0100
            Re: GNU Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 10:01 +0000
        Re: GNU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-21 21:33 +0000
          Re: GNU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-22 03:18 +0100
  Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-18 11:35 +1100
  Re: GNU Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-18 11:55 +1100

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