Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: GNU Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 13:57:38 +0100 Lines: 101 Message-ID: <2f8t8mx6f8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <10oj4iv$256in$7@dont-email.me> <10ojmjv$2ashr$1@dont-email.me> <10okvro$2qvnj$1@dont-email.me> <10p7bp4$1g2jr$1@dont-email.me> <10p8ukd$1vi0v$9@dont-email.me> <10p9ti1$2c71i$1@dont-email.me> <10pantb$2kk45$1@dont-email.me> <10pc94h$36i8h$1@dont-email.me> <20260317123742.0000521e@gmail.com> <10pcu8n$3edfg$1@dont-email.me> <10pdspd$3mv8s$7@dont-email.me> <20260318122434.d7774816b147fba94b0b850c@127.0.0.1> <10pe83m$3rg2l$1@dont-email.me> <877br8n5gj.fsf@parhasard.net> <10pfak2$8nkb$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net Dw2OVA153BsW/ukpHGPdYAevJKRGrXnNyqSjkdpJU7U8c5Lh+h X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:h98JginUJiTwU04AJh8NxRpBPb8= sha256:9ZYeILZXzUbmgHGQ3S1xlEi5tyX4F3XY0FZL6BS3jOg= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:83460 alt.usage.english:1140100 On 2026-03-19 01:13, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:57:04 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> If the USA did embrace any State Religion it would not be the USA >> any longer and I would not support such a change to our secular >> Republic. > > The US embraced capitalism as the State Religion long ago. The > question is if that has staying power. 275 years isn't a long time > in the history of civilizations. Scientists challenge the dogma of capitalism: a ‘high standard of living’ is possible without economic growth A study led by the Autonomous University of Barcelona shows that perpetual growth is not necessary if priority is given to the redistribution of wealth and the production of essential resources. Adhik Arrilucea Madrid 17/03/2026 21:45 Economic growth and sustainable development are the driving forces behind Western societies seeking to maintain their upward trends in the accumulation of resources and wealth. But this is not the only paradigm that exists. For some time now, new ways of imagining other possible worlds have become popular. Thus, social movements, science and philosophy have pursued research into degrowth. In contrast to current policies, this approach takes the planet’s limits into account and argues that, through fair redistribution, it is possible to live with dignity and have all our needs met without increasing production. These theories and approaches are not new. In November 2023, Letizia Ortiz herself went so far as to cite ecologists such as CSIC scientist Antonio Turiel. She acknowledged the development of ideas according to which “development and sustainability can no longer go hand in hand”. She did so during the 16th International Seminar on Language and Journalism, where she was accompanied, among other figures, by the then Minister for Digital Transformation, José Luis Escrivá. He retorted, however, that degrowth postulates ‘appear to be extremely weak in their foundations’. Nevertheless, experts have continued to develop a theoretical framework along these lines capable of analysing the reality of the climate crisis in all its aspects. A new study led by scientists from the Institute of Environmental Science and Technology at the Autonomous University of Barcelona (ICTA-UAB) explores how to achieve “high well-being” and a climate-resilient future without economic growth. The paper, published in Nature Climate Change, is a perspective piece. In other words, it is not a conventional case study, where a specific issue is investigated – to which a methodology is applied to obtain results from which conclusions are drawn. However, it undergoes the same peer-review process as standard articles. Translated with DeepL.com (free version) Perspective Published: 13 March 2026 Principles for a post-growth scenario of ambitious mitigation and high human well-being Aljoša Slameršak, Vivien Fisch-Romito, Jason Hickel, Jarmo S. Kikstra, Joel Millward Hopkins, Yannick Oswald & Julia Steinberger Nature Climate Change (2026)Cite this article 704 Accesses 248 Altmetric Metrics details Abstract Most climate mitigation scenarios maintain inequalities and associate favourable social and climate outcomes with continuing economic growth. By contrast, post-growth scholarship advocates for reducing less-necessary production, reorienting the economy towards human needs and ecological goals, and pursuing equitable convergence within and between countries. Here we synthesize recent advances in post-growth research into five core principles: well-being, sufficiency, reduced inequalities, repurposing of the economy and north–south convergence. Existing post-growth scenarios tend to fall short of considering, let alone implementing, these key elements. We assess feasibility barriers, finding that post-growth will face weaker geophysical and technological constraints, but stronger socio-cultural and political opposition, than growth-oriented scenarios. Advances in post-growth research, alongside international calls for mitigation rooted in fairness and equity, present a strong case for a holistic development of post-growth scenarios. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;