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Re: GNU

From Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, soc.culture.south-africa, za.politics
Subject Re: GNU
Date 2026-03-23 02:23 +0200
Organization Khanya Publications
Message-ID <3k11sk5n7mng2so2sq07hkr24f117c9bbe@4ax.com> (permalink)
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 10:52:03 +0100, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder) wrote:

>> When the ANC came to power in 1994 they didn't reverse that process,
>> but allowed Thatcherism to continue, with all its defects. I suspect
>> that some of the leaders who had been in exile in the UK just absorbed
>> the Zeitgeist.
>> 
>> One of the things it led to were huge levels of corruption in both
>> places. 
>
>South Africa becoming and being a corrupt one party state
>was all its own doing, which you cannot blame Maggie for,

South Africa is not and never has been a one-party state.

Maggie thatcher was one of the chief popularisers of neoliberal
economics, and the opportunities for corruption that opened up in most
of the contries whether  neoliberal principles were applied -- most
directly in the UK of course, but also in the Thatherist policies
applied by the ANC in South Africa. 

. 
-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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