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| From | David <David@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.os.linux.mint |
| Subject | Re: Ping: Paul |
| Date | 2025-01-09 22:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lub0maFc71U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <vln8jh$31t8r$1@dont-email.me> <lu9fgfFmqd8U2@mid.individual.net> <vlon89$3dct7$2@dont-email.me> <luahieFserdU1@mid.individual.net> <vlpef9$3hqs1$1@dont-email.me> |
On 09/01/2025 21:18, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 1/9/2025 1:07 PM, David wrote:
>> On 09/01/2025 14:42, Paul wrote:
>>> On Thu, 1/9/2025 3:25 AM, David wrote:
>>>> On 09/01/2025 01:26, Paul wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 1/8/2025 6:32 PM, David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've messed about for much of the day and got nowhere, Mike. :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all your efforts to help me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you give me a link to make a Hiren's boot disk so that I can
>>>>>> completely wipe all data from the Dell Laptop's hard drive?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start over tomorrow!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ventoy:
>>>>> Boot Windows 10 Installer media
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) When it offers Install or Troubleshooting, select Troubleshooting.
>>>>> 2) A number of squares will appear.
>>>>> One is labeled "Command Prompt".
>>>>> Select that one.
>>>>> 3) Command Prompt runs as Administrator.
>>>>>
>>>>> diskpart
>>>>> list disk # Note the disk with the correct size and the identification number ("0")
>>>>> select disk 0 # select the disk you have identified as the one needing deletion
>>>>> list partition # This is not absolutely required. It helps you verify this is the correct disk.
>>>>> clean # Removes MBR and two GPT tables. No partitions are now visible.
>>>>> # This is a quick way to avoid confusing any utilities. Takes 2 seconds.
>>>>> quit/exit # Exit the program
>>>>> exit # Exit the Command Prompt window, go back to Troubleshooting
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Select the Shutdown option from the Troubleshoot squares,
>>>>
>>>> Hello Paul
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for chipping in! 🙂
>>>>
>>>> I don't see that option! :-( (At least I don't think I do!)
>>>>
>>>> Right now I have A Windows image on my screen with the annotation, over
>>>> the black and white "Windows" Windows on the right had side, "Hiren's
>>>> BootCD (and beneath that) PE Windows 11
>>>>
>>>> https://ibb.co/TqqLf8s
>>>>
>>>> I can connect to the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> What would be your choice of things to do now?!!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for helping.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You've got a Command Prompt on the left of that screen.
>>>
>>> Go exploring. See if "diskpart.exe" is there, by executing it.
>>>
>>> As far as I know, WinPE have "diskpart.exe" and "cmd.exe" for
>>> the command prompt, as relatively standard parts. That's how
>>> we partition disks while working in crappy environments.
>>> It's not very convenient, but any harbour in a storm.
>>
>>
>> Hello Paul
>>
>> In the absence of Mike earlier (I see he's here now!) I used my Command Prompt to see how I fared.
>>
>> Here's a (terrible quality! Sorry!) image of what I did:-
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/9vWfm5N/IMG-3068.jpg
>>
>> So. What now?!!
>>
>
> I thought the mission was just to clean the disk ?
>
> You do appear to have had fun, but you're not making
> the mission any easier by doing that.
>
> Your mission order would be:
>
> 1) Clean the device.
>
> 2) Tell the device to use GPT or MBR.
>
> 3) Use the help to get the syntax explainer. Put "help" in front of the command.
>
> help create partition primary
>
> # Then we know it looks like
>
> CREATE PARTITION PRIMARY SIZE=102400 ID=07 (100GB NTFS partition, MBR syntax)
>
> # The partition is likely "selected" right now. A pro does this.
>
> list partition
> select partition n # only needed if it is not selected already
> # You *never* want to format the wrong partition...
>
> FORMAT FS=NTFS LABEL="Win10" QUICK # In a disk with lots of partitions, the label helps.
> # The label will get wiped during the install,
> # and don't panic if it happens to not be preserved.
>
> Anyway, we still haven't figured out the GPT versus MBR step.
> This would be only if we instead wanted GPT.
>
> As near as I can determine, when issuing commands to "diskpart",
> it assumes MBR (MSDOS) partitioning, but if you issue "convert gpt",
> that causes the addition of GPT tables, *before* you create
> your first partition. This example then, is a GPT sequence for a C: drive.
>
> clean
> convert gpt
> create primary partition size=102400 id=ebd0a0a2-b9e5-4433-87c0-68b6b72699c7 # Basic data partition
> # for a C: drive
>
> list partition # Asterisk should be next to the new 100GB primary. Safety check.
>
> format fs=ntfs label=win10 quick # A BDP does not "know" the filesystem, until this step is done.
> # In GPT mode, first the container is declared ("ebd0...")
> # and the filesystem inside the container comes as ("ntfs").
> exit
>
> HTH,
It does!
Very many thanks, Paul. :-D
What I had already done has enabled me to proceed further, as you can
witness here:-
https://i.ibb.co/wMWj0Pw/IMG-3071.jpg
Sadly, however, whilst writing this message to you, the laptop screen
went blank and required a reboot. :-(
I'm aware that loading Windows 10 does involve rebooting a number of
times on a 'working' machine. I've no idea about on this Hiren's mock-up!
Any further experimenting must now wait until tomorrow!!!
--
David
FYI, I've also been seeking help/info from ChatCPD. Something for you to
review here:-
=
You're correct — if you're already booted into Hiren's Boot CD PE from a
USB, your laptop likely only has one USB port or can't handle multiple
bootable USBs simultaneously. But don’t worry! You can still install
Windows 10 directly from the environment you’re running without needing
a second USB.
Here’s how you can do it:
---
### **Method: Installing Windows 10 Without a Second USB**
#### **Step 1: Download the Windows 10 ISO**
1. In Hiren's PE environment, use the built-in web browser to download
the Windows 10 ISO from the [Microsoft
website](https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10).
2. Save the ISO file to your laptop's internal hard drive or any
accessible storage (e.g., another partition or external drive).
---
#### **Step 2: Mount the Windows 10 ISO**
1. **Mount the ISO File**:
- Hiren's PE should allow you to mount ISO files directly.
- Right-click the ISO file and select **Mount** (if available).
- If "Mount" isn't an option, use a tool like **WinCDEmu** or
**7-Zip** (both included in Hiren's) to extract the contents of the ISO
to a folder.
---
#### **Step 3: Run the Windows 10 Setup**
1. Open the mounted ISO (or the extracted folder) in **File Explorer**.
2. Double-click `setup.exe` to launch the Windows 10 installation wizard.
3. Choose one of the following:
- **Upgrade Installation**: This will keep files and settings but
may not work well from Hiren’s PE.
- **Custom Installation (Recommended)**: This lets you perform a
clean install.
---
#### **Step 4: Clean Install Windows 10**
1. **Delete Existing Partitions**:
- If you choose **Custom Installation**, the setup will show your
disk partitions.
- Select the partitions associated with the old OS and delete them.
Be very careful to avoid deleting any storage partitions where you saved
the ISO file or important data.
2. **Install Windows 10**:
- Select the unallocated space to install Windows 10. The installer
will automatically format and set up the partitions.
---
#### **Step 5: Allow Windows 10 Installation to Proceed**
- Once you start the installation, the system will reboot and begin
installing Windows 10.
- At this point, you don’t need Hiren's PE anymore because the
installation will take over.
---
### **If You’re Running Hiren’s PE from the Same Disk**
If your laptop has only one drive and Hiren's PE is booted from it,
you'll need to free the drive for Windows 10 installation. Here's how:
1. **Copy the Windows 10 ISO to RAM**:
- Hiren's PE typically loads into RAM. You can confirm this by
opening File Explorer and checking if the Hiren's drive (X:) is
independent of your main hard disk (e.g., C:).
- If Hiren's is running from a USB, just copy the ISO file onto the
laptop's internal drive or a separate partition.
2. **Use Disk Management Tools**:
- Open **MiniTool Partition Wizard** (or any similar tool in Hiren’s
PE).
- Free up or delete existing partitions on the laptop’s hard drive.
- Make sure there’s unallocated space for Windows 10 installation.
---
### **Important Notes**
- **Power Backup**: Ensure your laptop is connected to power during the
installation.
- **BIOS Boot Settings**: After the first reboot during installation,
check your BIOS boot priority to ensure the hard drive (not USB) is
prioritized for booting.
- **Driver Issues**: Some older laptops may need drivers
post-installation. You can download these from Dell’s website.
If anything seems unclear or you’re stuck at a specific step, let me
know—I’m here to help!
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