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| Date | 2022-04-06 08:45 -0700 |
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| Message-ID | <28065cff-898c-4c55-9bf2-e7fc980cc52dn@googlegroups.com> (permalink) |
| Subject | Re: Annotated version of SRT |
| From | Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> |
On Wednesday, 6 April 2022 at 16:18:41 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: > Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, 6 April 2022 at 15:50:52 UTC+2, bodk...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Thomas Heger <ttt...@web.de> wrote: > >>> Am 05.04.2022 um 16:56 schrieb Odd Bodkin: > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> No. You simply don't understand how this works. Some people, when > >>>>>>>>>>>> they don't understand something, tend to blame everyone but themselves > >>>>>>>>>>>> for this. I cannot fix this problem for you. > >>>>>>>>>>> I understand, that magnetic field and electric field have different > >>>>>>>>>>> effects, hence are different things, even if related. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So: I cannot subtract 1 amp from 1 Volt, because that does not make much > >>>>>>>>>>> more sense then subtraction weigth from pressure. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> You don't subtract 1 A from 1 V. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Electric field strength (commonly called 'E') was subtracted from > >>>>>>>>> magnetic field strength (commonly called 'H') by Einstein. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> E has [V/m] as units and H has [A/m]. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How about in cgs units? You know about those? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you really want to defend the same idocities as Einstein? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don’t think systems of units are idiocies. > >>>>> > >>>>> Not the system of units, of course, but the use of these units. > >>>> > >>>> This may come as a shock to you, but combining quantities of the same units > >>>> and same transformation properties is commonplace in physics. For example, > >>>> the combination of angular kinetic energy and translational kinetic energy > >>>> in ordinary energy conservation scenarios. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The cgs system boild the fields down to 'force', which is measured in > >>>>> 'dyne'. > >>>>> > >>>>> This force was meant as real mechanical force like with what we measure > >>>>> weight, for instance. > >>>>> > >>>>> This was justified by measuring a force inside the measuring device, > >>>>> which ultimately was a mechanical force. > >>>>> > >>>>> (Einstein actually wrote so, when he wrote about the connection of an > >>>>> electron to a spring balance). > >>>>> > >>>>> Now the same units 'dyne' are not appropriate for electrical fields of > >>>>> different kind, because the dyne is 'not electric'. > >>>>> > >>>>> The units simply ignore this different origins of the fields and their > >>>>> different nature. > >>>> > >>>> I think you’re going to be generally flummoxed by the realization that > >>>> there is one electromagnetic field, not physically distinct electric and > >>>> magnetic fields. > >>> > >>> > >>> I know magnets and I know electric fields. These fields do not behave > >>> equal, at least not in the static realm. > >>> > >>> They may be ultimately two manifestations of the same thing, but still > >>> these static manifestations behave different. > >> Well, sure. For one thing, currents are the source of one, but as you know, > >> whether a charge is stationary or in motion is an accident of choice of > >> reference frame. > >> > >> Horizontal behaviors are often different than vertical behaviors as well, > > > > What is a "horizontal behavior", poor halfbrain? > > > Like the surface of a static water pool following a horizontal. Odd, poor halfbrain, is that how they taught you to define terms before they did you your precious "applied math" degree?
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Re: Annotated nazi excrement JanPB failed the eugenicist IQ-test Lamar Main <lana@rtcpans.in> - 2022-04-05 09:54 +0000
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Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-03 08:07 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-03 00:43 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-03 12:38 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-04 07:14 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-04 01:44 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-05 08:16 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-04 13:55 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-05 08:25 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-05 02:46 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-06 07:40 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 14:56 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-06 07:53 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-06 13:50 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-06 07:01 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-06 14:18 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-06 08:45 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-07 07:08 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 13:25 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-08 07:53 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-03 15:42 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-04 07:20 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-04 13:10 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-04 13:55 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-05 08:35 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-05 10:28 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 03:15 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-06 08:01 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 14:56 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-05 14:03 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-05 18:06 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-07 07:48 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 13:25 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-08 07:59 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Mitch Yamaguchi <sdvw@aozrihai.wg> - 2022-04-07 19:23 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 14:10 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-08 07:56 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-05 13:58 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-06 08:22 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-07 07:45 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 01:20 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-08 08:14 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 23:47 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 01:06 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-08 08:40 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-07 23:56 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-08 20:50 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-08 19:05 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-09 08:08 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-08 23:51 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 13:02 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Coke Hishikawa <uhva@blseummh.nm> - 2022-04-09 13:21 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-09 12:18 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-10 09:14 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-04-10 11:29 +0300
Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-10 12:28 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-04-10 16:54 +0300
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-11 00:50 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 21:52 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-11 07:42 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-11 11:01 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 13:06 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-09 07:48 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-09 14:36 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 06:18 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-10 08:49 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 23:52 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 12:54 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 12:51 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 05:02 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-10 21:04 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-10 22:08 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-10 21:20 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-11 07:48 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2022-04-11 08:43 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT Coke Hishikawa <uhva@blseummh.nm> - 2022-04-09 11:33 +0000
Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-09 13:08 -0700
Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-10 11:54 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-10 21:10 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-04 21:02 -0400
Re: Annotated version of SRT "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-04-03 22:31 +0200
Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-04 13:10 +0200
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