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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage |
| Subject | Relocating |
| Date | 2025-09-23 11:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sb4aqlx524.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (22 earlier) <VuDzQ.53$3vU6.42@fx17.ams1> <j6l3qlxdoa.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <7ZYzQ.83$Qzga.44@fx10.ams1> <j146qlxe16.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <tKhAQ.96$Qzga.61@fx10.ams1> |
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On 2025-09-22 21:48, Sam Plusnet wrote: > On 21/09/2025 21:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-09-21 22:10, Sam Plusnet wrote: >>> On 20/09/2025 23:07, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-09-20 21:44, Sam Plusnet wrote: >>>>> On 19/09/2025 21:55, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-09-19 07:11, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/19/25 00:38, rbowman wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:16:18 -0700, Bobbie Sellers >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course I am low rent. I worked at low-paying >>>>>>>>> jobs with all sorts and shades of skin color. Not >>>>>>>>> being able to work full time or part time did not >>>>>>>>> pay any better but I did the best I could and was >>>>>>>>> raised to be rather thrifty. A tight-wad and a >>>>>>>>> penny-pincher wth expensive taste for my economic >>>>>>>>> class. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm a college educated redneck but never developed >>>>>>>> expensive tastes thankfully and have a minimalist life >>>>>>>> style. That led to little anomalies like buying a >>>>>>>> relatively expensive computer while sleeping on a >>>>>>>> mattress on the floor. The computer was a business >>>>>>>> expense anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I got the AARP mag today with the glossy photos of >>>>>>>> high end retirement communities, scenic cruises, and >>>>>>>> vacations to exotic places for a glimpse into another >>>>>>>> world. I'd rather mow the lawn and scratch the cat's >>>>>>>> ears when she comes back from whatever exotic place >>>>>>>> she visits when I fire up the lawnmower. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read 'Walden' at a formative age I guess. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Heh ... I'm kind of in a similar groove. Don't need or >>>>>>> want the 'elegant lifestyle' bullshit or to hob-knob >>>>>>> with the 'elites' or project 'image'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's WAY cheaper - keeps you in the black and well away >>>>>>> from the red. Also just FAR less BS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cruises ... well, if you crave a dose of norovirus :-) >>>>>>> Besides, people might want to talk at you about Stupid >>>>>>> Stuff ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Some people say that it is cheaper to live on a long >>>>>> cruise than paying the rent back home. >>>>>> >>>>> Who in their right mind would pay that kind of rent? >>>> >>>> When there is no alternative... >>>> >>> There are always alternatives. They could move the South Wales. >>> (Rents are pretty cheap - for good & sufficient reasons.) >> >> Well... not everybody wants to emigrate. > > But they are prepared to 'leave home' and live aboard a cruise ship > far from anything they have known?[1]> Mmm... interesting. An example I chanced to read some days ago: <https://medium.com/@globexs/why-73-of-american-expats-leave-spain-within-2-years-industry-data-you-wont-like-f1ae2b7cc5ac> Why 73% of American Expats Leave Spain Within 2 Years (Industry Data You Won’t Like) «After helping 2,000+ Americans relocate to Spain over 22 years, I’ve tracked their success and failure patterns. The numbers are shocking — and the reasons aren’t what you think. I just finished analyzing our client database from the past decade. Of 847 American families and individuals who moved to Spain with long-term intentions, 618 returned to the US within 24 months.» >> For instance, there are many jobs in the island of Mallorca, >> specially in summer. But there is no affordable houses or rooms to >> be had. So the workers sleep in tents or cars instead. They are >> not poor, they have good salaries. But housing prices skyrocketed. >> >> Youths that managed to register to their dream university have to >> abandon their studies because they don't get anywhere affordable >> to live while they study. > > I'm sure you didn't invent the phrase, but "dream university" sounds > weird to me. If there was ever a time for rational thinking, > choosing a university would be it. It can be a very rational choice. Once found, it becomes their dream uni. They just call it that. > [1] A thought occurs. What happens to someone who is living on a > cruise ship when their passport expires? Do they become stateless? > Doomed to forever roam the waves without ever being able to visit > dry land? Presumably, the ship would be unable to evict them.> Well, it would be an "interesting" situation :-) They would have to contact their embassy somewhere. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 09:34 +0100
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Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:53 +0000
Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:24 +0200
Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:38 +0000
Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:54 +0200
Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:24 +0000
Re: lodgings Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:05 +0000
Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 16:18 +0000
Re: lodgings Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 16:52 +0000
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Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 22:57 +0200
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-24 14:30 -0700
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:01 +0000
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:17 +0200
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 20:33 -0400
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:15 +0200
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 23:58 +0000
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:20 +0200
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:10 +0100
Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:13 +0200
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Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:33 +0200
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-25 15:15 +0200
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:06 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:14 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 22:02 -0600
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 01:27 -0400
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 15:06 -0600
Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-25 06:03 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 15:02 -0600
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 10:02 +1000
Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-24 22:25 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 05:54 +0000
Re: Floppies "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-09-25 09:15 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 05:47 +0000
Morse code "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:35 +0200
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Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:00 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 14:38 -0600
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
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Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 07:30 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 16:46 -0600
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-24 06:06 +0200
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:41 -0600
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:05 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:10 -0600
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:22 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-26 14:58 -0600
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-27 00:23 -0600
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 23:25 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 07:08 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:30 +0100
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 20:51 +1000
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 00:06 +0100
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-26 09:59 +1000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:12 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:54 +0100
Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-25 09:09 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:38 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:16 -0600
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:57 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 21:19 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-24 22:44 +0200
Re: Floppies charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2025-09-24 21:30 +0000
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 23:50 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:13 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 10:06 +1000
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-25 05:38 +0200
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:14 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:25 -0600
Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-22 17:58 -0600
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:15 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:38 +0200
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:04 +0000
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Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:45 +0100
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Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 00:08 -0600
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:54 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:45 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-21 00:39 -0400
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 23:19 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:52 +0100
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-21 17:54 +1000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 10:17 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 09:44 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 11:27 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 10:32 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 11:53 +0200
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-21 20:26 +1000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 08:50 -0700
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 19:28 +0200
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 11:16 +0100
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 12:43 +0100
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 13:41 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:32 +0200
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:00 -0400
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-23 09:26 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-23 08:45 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-23 11:50 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-23 11:30 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:33 +0100
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:22 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 14:20 -0700
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:33 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:26 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-24 08:51 +0200
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 09:24 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:40 +0000
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:34 +0100
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-24 09:05 +1000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:27 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 18:19 -0700
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-23 21:40 -0400
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:33 +0100
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-24 08:26 -0700
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 09:37 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:15 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:25 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:27 +0000
Topic drift and culture wars (was Re: Floppies) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-25 05:54 +0200
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:06 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 15:14 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:24 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:54 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:18 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:38 +0000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 16:19 +0200
Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 19:59 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:01 +0000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 07:58 +0200
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:35 +0200
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:33 +0200
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:01 +0200
Re: Floppies Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-09-22 12:12 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 09:01 -0700
Anarchy Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 06:30 +0200
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 08:48 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:28 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:21 +0000
Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:49 +0200
Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:02 +0100
Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 20:19 +0200
Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:14 +0100
Re: Ousting a king rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:52 +0000
Re: Ousting a king Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 15:03 +0000
Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:24 +0200
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:48 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:53 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 19:59 +0200
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 00:19 -0600
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 09:28 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:44 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:12 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:40 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2025-09-22 11:35 +0100
Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:58 +0200
Re: Multiple residences rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:58 +0000
Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:43 +0200
Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:09 +0200
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 21:55 +1000
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-22 18:09 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:18 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:02 -0400
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:09 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:42 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:36 +0100
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:24 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:23 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:51 -0700
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:29 +0200
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:25 +0200
Re: Floppies Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2025-09-28 14:45 +0200
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-29 02:30 +0200
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-28 18:15 -0700
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-28 23:17 -0400
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 10:15 +0100
Meta: Off-topic cross-posts (was: Re: Floppies) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 11:05 +0100
Re: Meta: Off-topic cross-posts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 11:38 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:27 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 15:16 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:31 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 15:44 +0100
climate change, was Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-29 12:54 -0400
Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 19:14 +0200
Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 19:00 +0100
Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 21:54 +0200
Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 21:11 +0100
Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 18:59 +0100
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:36 +0100
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:28 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:11 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 10:07 +1000
Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-22 00:29 +0000
Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:14 +0200
Re: Desalinated water Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0200
Re: Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:08 +0200
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:46 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 16:01 -0700
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 05:27 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 23:35 -0700
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:22 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 13:16 -0700
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:31 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 21:38 -0700
Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:38 +0200
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-28 18:44 +0000
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 15:00 +0200
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-29 07:37 -0700
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-29 18:03 +0000
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 22:12 +0200
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-28 13:45 -0700
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-29 02:08 +0000
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-28 21:47 -0700
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-29 07:06 +0000
Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 15:01 +0200
Re: Desalinated water Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 11:25 +1000
Re: Desalinated water The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:17 +0100
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 10:02 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:50 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:43 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:11 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:24 +0000
Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 20:07 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:25 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 19:35 -0700
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-22 21:25 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:29 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:46 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 05:12 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:00 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 20:32 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 02:55 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:39 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:08 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:24 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:42 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:25 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:03 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:49 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:22 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:44 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:32 +0100
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:18 -0400
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 04:57 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:48 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 22:38 -0700
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-19 12:05 +0200
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-19 07:58 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:37 +0000
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