Re: Floppies

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Floppies
Date	2025-09-28 14:29 +0200
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On 2025-09-23 16:24, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2025-09-23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 23/09/2025 12:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-09-23 13:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 23/09/2025 10:09, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> We have socialists and communists running the government here, and
>>>>> nothing untoward has happened.
>>>>
>>>> Just a power cut for the whole country.
>>>
>>> LOL. Not their fault, likely. Could have happened to any government
>>> anywhere.
>>>
>> ...who mandated the use of renewable energy without understanding the
>> consequences. Or holding its advocates to account.
> 
> You do need to finally take the time to actually check what happened,
> instead of just sitting on the same pile of steaming far-right bullshit.
> 
> If we're getting into this kind of "consequences" talk, maybe: they
> should hold whoever allowed private operators to account, or whoever did
> not mandate strict enough procedures and/or rules to catch early or
> prevent the succession of failures?
> 
> Or - and I'm going on a limb here - we could drop the far-right bullshit
> and instead talk of a proper investigation of why what ought to be
> critical systems did not handle this failure in the way they were
> expected to and instead caused wide disruption?
> 
> (I said "drop the far-right bullshit", so please don't reply to this
> with "because of solar power" or "because of renewables" or "because of
> [non-existing] subsidies".)
> 
> It was bad enough dealing with the failures of Iberdrola and of the
> fossil fuel plants to avoid disturbing the grid, do we now have to brace
> for Trump and GOP-style (if not -infused) far-right misinformation on
> this invading iberian politics?
> 
> But I guess you're not even aware - or you chose to ignore it because it
> conflicts with your worldview? - that it was a failure in fossil fuel
> plants that actually brought the grid down? (Besides overall failure to
> act as expected from thermal and nuclear power plants, at least one
> thermal plant is said to have done the opposite of that it should.)

And the other day some body (institution?) blamed human fault. I could 
not read it, as it was behind a pay wall.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:02 -0400
  Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
    Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
  Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:09 +0200
    Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
      Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:42 +0200
        Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:36 +0100
          Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:24 +0100
            Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:23 +0100
            Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:51 -0700
            Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:29 +0200
          Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:25 +0200
            Re: Floppies Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2025-09-28 14:45 +0200
              Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-29 02:30 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-28 18:15 -0700
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-28 23:17 -0400
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 10:15 +0100
                Meta: Off-topic cross-posts (was: Re: Floppies) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 11:05 +0100
                Re: Meta: Off-topic cross-posts The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 11:38 +0100
                Far Right = Conservative Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-30 07:06 +0200
                Re: Far Right = Conservative c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 01:17 -0400
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:27 +0200
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-30 06:24 +0200
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:41 +0200
            Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 15:16 +0100
              Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:31 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 15:44 +0100
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                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 19:00 +0100
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 21:54 +0200
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 21:11 +0100
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                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 18:59 +0100
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-29 18:17 -0400
                Re: climate change Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 00:14 +0100
                Re: climate change rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 02:42 +0000
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 10:15 +0100
                Re: climate change Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-30 21:11 +1000
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                Re: climate change Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-30 16:46 +1000
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 10:18 +0100
                Re: climate change Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-30 23:09 -0400
                Re: climate change ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-01 04:03 +0000
                Re: climate change The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2025-10-04 15:06 -0400
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-05 10:05 +0100
                Re: climate change rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 20:55 +0000
                Re: climate change "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-01 09:59 +0200
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 10:13 +0100
                Re: climate change Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-30 19:50 -0400
                Re: climate change Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-10-01 11:36 +1000
                Re: climate change Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-30 22:32 -0400
                Re: climate change Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-10-01 15:01 +1000
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 09:17 +0100
                Re: climate change Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-10-01 15:45 -0400
                Re: climate change Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-01 17:33 -0700
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:44 +0100
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:40 +0100
                Re: climate change The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 09:16 +0100
                Re: climate change Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-01 09:41 -0700
                Re: climate change Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 10:00 +0100
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-09-30 13:20 +0200
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:50 +0100
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 02:31 +0000
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:54 +0200
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 20:52 +0000
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-01 00:30 +0200
                Re: climate change, was Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 10:27 +0100
      Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:36 +0100
  Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:28 +0100
    Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:31 +0100

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