Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.usage.english,alt.english.usage Subject: Relocating Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 11:03:24 +0200 Lines: 108 Message-ID: References: <9fjemlxbio.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10a6t8d$1d082$8@dont-email.me> <4cnjplxbgm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <101fck52laaigefq5tubi6i7b0qpccmuic@4ax.com> <9DOdncYo-vBzE1r1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <10a8mbc$1q6g1$8@dont-email.me> <10afh2l$3hcc0$1@dont-email.me> <10ag0tf$3l3a7$1@dont-email.me> <10agpn4$3qpp8$2@dont-email.me> <10ah9i6$3v8gp$1@dont-email.me> <10ai0bj$599f$1@dont-email.me> <7ZYzQ.83$Qzga.44@fx10.ams1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 2Gph/QVLM3wnceR6OuDOIwnJ/xmfgeaECOoDdK1n1aRr5DSNf8 X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:CfFSXWfzEJWrraDRHxhXQFSaIyM= sha256:H+xinGpd4sf25m09RVk+9Kv/1N0ftWsWrAkGnKTSUX8= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:74934 alt.usage.english:1128725 On 2025-09-22 21:48, Sam Plusnet wrote: > On 21/09/2025 21:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-09-21 22:10, Sam Plusnet wrote: >>> On 20/09/2025 23:07, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-09-20 21:44, Sam Plusnet wrote: >>>>> On 19/09/2025 21:55, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-09-19 07:11, c186282 wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/19/25 00:38, rbowman wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:16:18 -0700, Bobbie Sellers >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course I am low rent. I worked at low-paying >>>>>>>>> jobs with all sorts and shades of skin color. Not >>>>>>>>> being able to work full time or part time did not >>>>>>>>> pay any better but I did the best I could and was >>>>>>>>> raised to be rather thrifty. A tight-wad and a >>>>>>>>> penny-pincher wth expensive taste for my economic >>>>>>>>> class. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm a college educated redneck but never developed >>>>>>>> expensive tastes thankfully and have a minimalist life >>>>>>>> style. That led to little anomalies like buying a >>>>>>>> relatively expensive computer while sleeping on a >>>>>>>> mattress on the floor. The computer was a business >>>>>>>> expense anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I got the AARP mag today with the glossy photos of >>>>>>>> high end retirement communities, scenic cruises, and >>>>>>>> vacations to exotic places for a glimpse into another >>>>>>>> world. I'd rather mow the lawn and scratch the cat's >>>>>>>> ears when she comes back from whatever exotic place >>>>>>>> she visits when I fire up the lawnmower. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read 'Walden' at a formative age I guess. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Heh ... I'm kind of in a similar groove. Don't need or >>>>>>> want the 'elegant lifestyle' bullshit or to hob-knob >>>>>>> with the 'elites' or project 'image'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's WAY cheaper - keeps you in the black and well away >>>>>>> from the red. Also just FAR less BS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cruises ... well, if you crave a dose of norovirus :-) >>>>>>> Besides, people might want to talk at you about Stupid >>>>>>> Stuff ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Some people say that it is cheaper to live on a long >>>>>> cruise than paying the rent back home. >>>>>> >>>>> Who in their right mind would pay that kind of rent? >>>> >>>> When there is no alternative... >>>> >>> There are always alternatives. They could move the South Wales. >>> (Rents are pretty cheap - for good & sufficient reasons.) >> >> Well... not everybody wants to emigrate. > > But they are prepared to 'leave home' and live aboard a cruise ship > far from anything they have known?[1]> Mmm... interesting. An example I chanced to read some days ago: Why 73% of American Expats Leave Spain Within 2 Years (Industry Data You Won’t Like) «After helping 2,000+ Americans relocate to Spain over 22 years, I’ve tracked their success and failure patterns. The numbers are shocking — and the reasons aren’t what you think. I just finished analyzing our client database from the past decade. Of 847 American families and individuals who moved to Spain with long-term intentions, 618 returned to the US within 24 months.» >> For instance, there are many jobs in the island of Mallorca, >> specially in summer. But there is no affordable houses or rooms to >> be had. So the workers sleep in tents or cars instead. They are >> not poor, they have good salaries. But housing prices skyrocketed. >> >> Youths that managed to register to their dream university have to >> abandon their studies because they don't get anywhere affordable >> to live while they study. > > I'm sure you didn't invent the phrase, but "dream university" sounds > weird to me. If there was ever a time for rational thinking, > choosing a university would be it. It can be a very rational choice. Once found, it becomes their dream uni. They just call it that. > [1] A thought occurs. What happens to someone who is living on a > cruise ship when their passport expires? Do they become stateless? > Doomed to forever roam the waves without ever being able to visit > dry land? Presumably, the ship would be unable to evict them.> Well, it would be an "interesting" situation :-) They would have to contact their embassy somewhere. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;