Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]

From	Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]
Date	2025-09-29 07:37 -0700
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On 9/29/25 06:00, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-09-28 20:44, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 14:38:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-24 06:31, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:16:03 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
	Misattribution: Bowman wrote that paragraph.>>>> Don't forget the 
tomatoes. During harvest season I'd pass the trucks
>>>> that looked like bathtubs on wheels pile high with tomatoes. Most of
>>>> the time they were leaving a trail of tomatoes on I-5.
>>>
>>> Here they box them first. Otherwise they crush.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-koSjUj7kU
>> https://boomcalifornia.org/2013/06/24/thinking-through-the-tomato-
>> harvester/
> 
> 
> Audio is Spanish, but you can see the plantation is very different.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjz3yhGAYI
> 
> Another plantation
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_v6yXhscA
> 
> air view of an industrial farm
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16F3rm_xOg
> 
> 
> A short of harvesting. It is manual. Lots of immigration labour.
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a3TU299iFvo
> 
> Tomatoes here are usually planted inside greenhouses, to have earlier 
> crops and year round, and supported by canes, so bigger plants and the 
> fruits in the air.
> 
> A lot of that tomato is exported to north of us in Europe. We also take 
> them from Morocco.
> 
> Some people like them green, but mostly they harvest green starting to 
> go red, so that they ripen during transport. Gives them extra time. But a 
> tomato that ripens in the plant is delicious. I try to grow a plant or 
> two, but often the plants are eaten by insects and I get nothing. I'm 
> not a good gardener.
> 
>>
>> The second link describes the tandem development of the machinery and the
>> tomatoes that can survive the machine.
>>
>> "The key was a change in perspective. Instead of looking for flavor,
>> texture, or even color or appearance, as he would have otherwise, he had
>> in this project to learn to “look at a plant mechanically.” Flavor, 
>> liquid
>> content, shape, and appearance were secondary to finding the properties
>> that could be run successfully through the harvester. "
>>
>> They look like tomatoes but don't necessarily taste like them. The white
>> bins in the video and the text link are transferred to flatbed trucks for
>> highway transport but the loads are piled high and not tarped so some 
>> loss
>> is inevitable.
>>
>>> I'm curious.
>>>
>>> When lorries park at some place waiting to be loaded the following day,
>>> does the driver go to an hotel somewhere, or sleep in the vehicle? And
>>> how do they go, taxi? I fear they mostly sleep on the vehicle, other
>>> thing would be expensive and eat on the earnings.
>>
>> You sleep in the truck.
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_sleeper
>>
>> https://www.core77.com/posts/59146/What-Do-Luxury-Sleeper-Cabs-for-Long-
>> Haul-Truck-Drivers-Look-Like
> 
> Astounding interiors. Here they are much smaller.
> 
>>
>> https://www.cloudtrucks.com/blog-post/where-do-truckers-sleep
>>
>> The company I drove for had very rudimentary sleeper, just a narrow bunk
>> with some storage underneath like the first photo in the third link.
>> Another company in the same city had larger sleepers and we were told
>> 'Drive for them and you'll need the bigger sleeper because you'll never
>> get home.'
>>
>> I'd typically be out two or three weeks with four or five days home. It
>> sucks for anyone with a family. You're going to miss holidays, birthdays,
>> graduations, and so forth. I'd drive during the Christmas holidays since
>> it didn't matter to me and would give someone a chance to take the time
>> off.
>>
>> The truck stops have shower facilities and you get a coupon if you buy
>> fuel. I never was fond of truckstop food so I'd get bread or bagels,
>> granola, dry milk, canned food, and so forth. Most trucks had places
>> around the manifold where you could stick a can and it wouldn't fall out.
>> Hot meal in 100 miles.
>>
>> For grocery shopping, doing your laundry, and so for you'd drop the
>> trailer and 'bobtail' with just the tractor.
>>
>> Overnight parking might be a truck stop, rest area, where you were 
>> loading
>> or delivering, or other quiet spot. Good luck with that. I parked at what
>> looked like a peaceful little park. Seems it doubled as a landing pad for
>> the LAPD helicopters.
>>
>> It's a different life and it was fun until it wasn't. When I was a kid I
>> wanted to be a truck driver. Of course my parents wouldn't hear of it. I
>> was going to college or else. Years later when I was burned out with
>> computers I decided it was time. Since there is no continuity beyond
>> delivering a load it had the advantage for me that I could take the 
>> winter
>> off and go to Arizona. In the spring I'd go back and hit the road. The
>> industry has a very high turn over so there is always a truck waiting.
>> You're paid by the mile so if freight is slow you'er not making money.
> 
> Thanks for the view :-)
> 
	bliss

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