Re: Floppies

From	lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage
Subject	Re: Floppies
Date	2025-09-24 22:41 -0600
Organization	Sedimentary
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On 2025-09-23 22:06, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:46:22 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-23 00:35, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 14:38:16 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-22 13:48, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>> On 21/09/2025 21:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-09-21 22:10, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>> On 20/09/2025 23:07, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-20 21:44, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 19/09/2025 21:55, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-19 07:11, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/25 00:38, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:16:18 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Of course I am low rent.  I worked at low-paying jobs with all
>>>>>>>>>>>> sorts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shades of skin color. Not being able to work full time or part
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not pay any better but I did the best I could and was raised to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather thrifty.  A tight-wad and a penny-pincher wth expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taste for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my economic class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a college educated redneck but never developed expensive tastes
>>>>>>>>>>>> thankfully and have a minimalist life style. That led to little
>>>>>>>>>>>> anomalies
>>>>>>>>>>>> like buying a relatively expensive computer while sleeping on a
>>>>>>>>>>>> mattress
>>>>>>>>>>>> on the floor. The computer was a business expense anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I got the AARP mag today with the glossy photos of high end
>>>>>>>>>>>> retirement
>>>>>>>>>>>> communities, scenic cruises, and vacations to exotic places for
>>>>>>>>>>>> a glimpse
>>>>>>>>>>>> into another world. I'd rather mow the lawn and scratch the
>>>>>>>>>>>> cat's ears
>>>>>>>>>>>> when she comes back from whatever exotic place she visits when I
>>>>>>>>>>>> fire up
>>>>>>>>>>>> the lawnmower.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I read 'Walden' at a formative age I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      Heh ... I'm kind of in a similar groove. Don't need or
>>>>>>>>>>>      want the 'elegant lifestyle' bullshit or to hob-knob
>>>>>>>>>>>      with the 'elites' or project 'image'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      It's WAY cheaper - keeps you in the black and well
>>>>>>>>>>>      away from the red. Also just FAR less BS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      Cruises ... well, if you crave a dose of norovirus  :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>      Besides, people might want to talk at you about
>>>>>>>>>>>      Stupid Stuff ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some people say that it is cheaper to live on a long cruise than
>>>>>>>>>> paying the rent back home.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who in their right mind would pay that kind of rent?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When there is no alternative...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are always alternatives.
>>>>>>> They could move the South Wales.
>>>>>>> (Rents are pretty cheap - for good & sufficient reasons.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well... not everybody wants to emigrate.
>>>>>
>>>>> But they are prepared to 'leave home' and live aboard a cruise ship far
>>>>> from anything they have known?[1]>
>>>>>> For instance, there are many jobs in the island of Mallorca, specially
>>>>>> in summer. But there is no affordable houses or rooms to be had. So
>>>>>> the workers sleep in tents or cars instead. They are not poor, they
>>>>>> have good salaries. But housing prices skyrocketed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Youths that managed to register to their dream university have to
>>>>>> abandon their studies because they don't get anywhere affordable to
>>>>>> live while they study.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure you didn't invent the phrase, but "dream university" sounds
>>>>> weird to me.  If there was ever a time for rational thinking, choosing a
>>>>> university would be it.
>>>>
>>>> The 'dream' is not a reference to lack of rationality, but an adjective
>>>> meaning, in effect, very desirable.
>>>>
>>>>> [1] A thought occurs.  What happens to someone who is living on a cruise
>>>>> ship when their passport expires?  Do they become stateless?  Doomed to
>>>>> forever roam the waves without ever being able to visit dry land?
>>>>> Presumably, the ship would be unable to evict them.>
>>>>
>>>> Presumably the same thing that happens to a pilot flying an aircraft
>>>> when his airworthiness certificate expires. Nothing.
>>>
>>> I think an airworthiness certificate applies to the aircraft, not the
>>> pilot.
>>
>> Indeed it does, but the aircraft does not suddenly crash.
> 
> No, but the authorities might not allow it to take off, just as they
> might not allow a passenger without a passport to leave the ship,
> though in that case the passenger might not want to, since they regard
> the ship as their permanent home.

I can't speak for any other country than Canada, but nobody ever checked 
to see if my plane had a current valid CofA. It was up to me to ensure 
that it had one before I took off.

I could just go to the airport, fire up the plane, tell the tower I was 
ready to go. They would give me clearance to taxi to a runway, where I 
would tell them I was ready for takeoff, and when safe, they'd clear me. 
I would definitely not take off if my plane's CofA had expired, as it 
would very be bad to get caught.

Of course I am what is called in Canada, a private pilot. An airline 
pilot does not have to worry about the CofA. He is assigned to a flight, 
and away he goes.

-- 
I know my dog loves me, but if I had a squeaker inside me,
he would gut me like a fish.

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  Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-21 21:10 +0100
    Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:33 +0200
      Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 20:17 -0400
        lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:10 +0200
          Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:53 +0000
            Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:24 +0200
              Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:38 +0000
                Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:54 +0200
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:24 +0000
                Re: lodgings Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:05 +0000
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 16:18 +0000
                Re: lodgings Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 16:52 +0000
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 23:42 +0000
            Re: lodgings Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:24 -0700
              Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:52 +0000
      Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-22 20:48 +0100
        Re: Floppies Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2025-09-22 21:17 +0100
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:06 +0000
            Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 21:08 +1000
              Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:04 +0100
              Travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:25 +0200
                Re: Travel Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 14:10 -0700
                Re: Travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:02 +0200
                Re: Travel Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 17:54 -0700
                Re: Travel Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-24 08:44 +1000
                Re: Travel rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:20 +0000
                Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 22:57 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-24 14:30 -0700
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:01 +0000
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:17 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 20:33 -0400
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:15 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 23:58 +0000
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:20 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:10 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:13 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:31 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:14 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:27 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-25 11:14 +0000
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 12:50 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:29 +0200
            Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:00 +0100
              Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 16:34 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:08 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 21:54 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:23 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:26 -0600
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:28 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:33 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-25 15:15 +0200
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:06 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:14 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 22:02 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 01:27 -0400
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 15:06 -0600
                Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-25 06:03 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 15:02 -0600
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 10:02 +1000
                Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-24 22:25 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 05:54 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-09-25 09:15 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 05:47 +0000
                Morse code "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: Morse code Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-25 15:15 +0200
              Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:00 +0000
        Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 14:38 -0600
          Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:08 +0000
            Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:10 +0100
          Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:35 +0200
            Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 07:30 +0000
            Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 16:46 -0600
              Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-24 06:06 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:41 -0600
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:05 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:10 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-26 14:58 -0600
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-27 00:23 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 23:25 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 07:08 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:30 +0100
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 20:51 +1000
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 00:06 +0100
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-26 09:59 +1000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:12 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:54 +0100
                Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-25 09:09 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:38 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:16 -0600
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:57 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
              Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 21:19 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-24 22:44 +0200
                Re: Floppies charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2025-09-24 21:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 23:50 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:13 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:07 +0000
              Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 10:06 +1000
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-25 05:38 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:14 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:25 -0600
        Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-22 17:58 -0600
          Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
          Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:15 +0100
            Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:38 +0200
        Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
          Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:04 +0000
          Re: Floppies Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2025-09-23 19:05 +1200
        Dream university Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:33 +0200
          Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:21 +0100
            Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:06 +0000
              Re: Dream university Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-23 19:30 -0400
                Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:22 +0000
                Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:38 +0100
          Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:00 +0000
        Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:03 +0200
          Re: Relocating Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:13 +0100
            Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:37 +0200
          Re: Relocating rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:50 +0000
            Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:18 +0200

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