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Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]
Date 2025-09-29 15:00 +0200
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On 2025-09-28 20:44, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 14:38:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-24 06:31, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:16:03 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> Don't forget the tomatoes. During harvest season I'd pass the trucks
>>> that looked like bathtubs on wheels pile high with tomatoes. Most of
>>> the time they were leaving a trail of tomatoes on I-5.
>>
>> Here they box them first. Otherwise they crush.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-koSjUj7kU
> https://boomcalifornia.org/2013/06/24/thinking-through-the-tomato-
> harvester/


Audio is Spanish, but you can see the plantation is very different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjz3yhGAYI

Another plantation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_v6yXhscA

air view of an industrial farm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16F3rm_xOg


A short of harvesting. It is manual. Lots of immigration labour.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a3TU299iFvo

Tomatoes here are usually planted inside greenhouses, to have earlier 
crops and year round, and supported by canes, so bigger plants and the 
fruits in the air.

A lot of that tomato is exported to north of us in Europe. We also take 
them from Morocco.

Some people like them green, but mostly they harvest green starting to 
go red, so that they rip during transport. Gives them extra time. But a 
tomato that ripens in the plant is delicious. I try to grow a plant or 
two, but often the plants are eaten by insects and I get nothing. I'm 
not a good gardener.

> 
> The second link describes the tandem development of the machinery and the
> tomatoes that can survive the machine.
> 
> "The key was a change in perspective. Instead of looking for flavor,
> texture, or even color or appearance, as he would have otherwise, he had
> in this project to learn to “look at a plant mechanically.” Flavor, liquid
> content, shape, and appearance were secondary to finding the properties
> that could be run successfully through the harvester. "
> 
> They look like tomatoes but don't necessarily taste like them. The white
> bins in the video and the text link are transferred to flatbed trucks for
> highway transport but the loads are piled high and not tarped so some loss
> is inevitable.
> 
>> I'm curious.
>>
>> When lorries park at some place waiting to be loaded the following day,
>> does the driver go to an hotel somewhere, or sleep in the vehicle? And
>> how do they go, taxi? I fear they mostly sleep on the vehicle, other
>> thing would be expensive and eat on the earnings.
> 
> You sleep in the truck.
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_sleeper
> 
> https://www.core77.com/posts/59146/What-Do-Luxury-Sleeper-Cabs-for-Long-
> Haul-Truck-Drivers-Look-Like

Astounding interiors. Here they are much smaller.

> 
> https://www.cloudtrucks.com/blog-post/where-do-truckers-sleep
> 
> The company I drove for had very rudimentary sleeper, just a narrow bunk
> with some storage underneath like the first photo in the third link.
> Another company in the same city had larger sleepers and we were told
> 'Drive for them and you'll need the bigger sleeper because you'll never
> get home.'
> 
> I'd typically be out two or three weeks with four or five days home. It
> sucks for anyone with a family. You're going to miss holidays, birthdays,
> graduations, and so forth. I'd drive during the Christmas holidays since
> it didn't matter to me and would give someone a chance to take the time
> off.
> 
> The truck stops have shower facilities and you get a coupon if you buy
> fuel. I never was fond of truckstop food so I'd get bread or bagels,
> granola, dry milk, canned food, and so forth. Most trucks had places
> around the manifold where you could stick a can and it wouldn't fall out.
> Hot meal in 100 miles.
> 
> For grocery shopping, doing your laundry, and so for you'd drop the
> trailer and 'bobtail' with just the tractor.
> 
> Overnight parking might be a truck stop, rest area, where you were loading
> or delivering, or other quiet spot. Good luck with that. I parked at what
> looked like a peaceful little park. Seems it doubled as a landing pad for
> the LAPD helicopters.
> 
> It's a different life and it was fun until it wasn't. When I was a kid I
> wanted to be a truck driver. Of course my parents wouldn't hear of it. I
> was going to college or else. Years later when I was burned out with
> computers I decided it was time. Since there is no continuity beyond
> delivering a load it had the advantage for me that I could take the winter
> off and go to Arizona. In the spring I'd go back and hit the road. The
> industry has a very high turn over so there is always a truck waiting.
> You're paid by the mile so if freight is slow you'er not making money.

Thanks for the view :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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