Re: Floppies

From	Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage
Subject	Re: Floppies
Date	2025-09-21 19:59 -0400
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 16:19:27 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
<rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> wrote:

>Den 21.09.2025 kl. 12.16 skrev Richard Heathfield:
>
>>>> One might add any number of rules that restrict personal freedom. Why
>>>> shouldn't people own whatever they can afford to buy?
>>>
>>> Because that'd be anarchy.
>> 
>> And confiscating people's property isn't?
>
>Discussing the meaning of "anarchy" and "confiscating":
>
>According to Danish law a confiscation happens if the state takes 
>somebody's property without compensation. It is possible in criminal cases.
>
>It's another thing if it forces someone to sell their property to the 
>state. That happens if the common good conflicts with the right to own 
>property (roads, railways and the like).
>
>Both actions are defined in our laws, so you can't call it anarchy if it 
>happens according to the law. You can say that you'd like those laws to 
>disappear, but that is something else.

In the US, a government (federal, state, county, or city) can take
ownership of private property and convert it to for a road, utility,
railroad, or some other public use.  However, the private owner must
be given "just compensation".  This right is part of the Constitution
in the Fifth Amendment.  Known as "Eminate Domain", the Amendment was
based on Common Law.

What the private owner thinks is "just compensation", and what the
government determines as "just compensation", can be quite different.

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          Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:16 +0200
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                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 09:34 +0100
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                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 02:13 +0000
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                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 00:07 +0200
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-21 21:10 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:33 +0200
                Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 20:17 -0400
                lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:10 +0200
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                Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:24 +0200
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:38 +0000
                Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:54 +0200
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:24 +0000
                Re: lodgings Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:05 +0000
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 16:18 +0000
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                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:52 +0000
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                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 21:08 +1000
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:04 +0100
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                Re: Travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:02 +0200
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                Re: Travel Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-24 08:44 +1000
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                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:01 +0000
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                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 23:58 +0000
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:20 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:10 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:13 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:31 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:14 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:27 +0200
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                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 12:50 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:29 +0200
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:00 +0100
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 16:34 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:08 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 21:54 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:23 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:26 -0600
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:28 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:33 +0200
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                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:06 +0200
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                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 15:06 -0600
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                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:00 +0000
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                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:08 +0000
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:10 +0100
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:35 +0200
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                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:05 +0000
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                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:22 +0000
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                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:30 +0100
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                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-26 09:59 +1000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:12 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:54 +0100
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                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:16 -0600
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:57 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 21:19 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-24 22:44 +0200
                Re: Floppies charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2025-09-24 21:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 23:50 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:13 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 10:06 +1000
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-25 05:38 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:14 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:25 -0600
                Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-22 17:58 -0600
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:15 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:38 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:04 +0000
                Re: Floppies Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2025-09-23 19:05 +1200
                Dream university Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:33 +0200
                Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:21 +0100
                Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:06 +0000
                Re: Dream university Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-23 19:30 -0400
                Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:22 +0000
                Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:38 +0100
                Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:00 +0000
                Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:03 +0200
                Re: Relocating Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:13 +0100
                Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:37 +0200
                Re: Relocating rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:50 +0000
                Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:18 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:45 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:45 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:05 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:15 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:21 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 14:07 -0700
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 09:48 +1000
                Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-22 00:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2025-09-22 21:28 +1200
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 10:48 +0100
                Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-21 23:09 -0600
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 08:03 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0100
                Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-22 10:19 -0600
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 11:00 +1000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:05 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:09 +0100
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 00:08 -0600
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:54 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:45 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-21 00:39 -0400
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 23:19 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:52 +0100
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-21 17:54 +1000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 10:17 +0200
                Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 09:44 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 11:27 +0200
                Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 10:32 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 11:53 +0200
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-21 20:26 +1000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 08:50 -0700
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 19:28 +0200
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 11:16 +0100
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 12:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 13:41 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:32 +0200
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:00 -0400
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-23 09:26 +0200
                Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-23 08:45 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-23 11:50 +0200
                Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-23 11:30 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:33 +0100
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:22 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 14:20 -0700
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:33 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:26 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-24 08:51 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 09:24 -0700
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:40 +0000
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:34 +0100
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-24 09:05 +1000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:27 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 18:19 -0700
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-23 21:40 -0400
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:33 +0100
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-24 08:26 -0700
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 09:37 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:15 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:25 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:27 +0000
                Topic drift and culture wars (was Re: Floppies) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-25 05:54 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:54 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:18 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:38 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 16:19 +0200
                Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 19:59 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:01 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 07:58 +0200
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:35 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:33 +0200
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:01 +0200
                Re: Floppies Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-09-22 12:12 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 09:01 -0700
                Anarchy Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 06:30 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 08:48 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:28 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:21 +0000
                Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:49 +0200
                Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:02 +0100
                Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 20:19 +0200
                Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:14 +0100
                Re: Ousting a king rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:52 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:48 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:53 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 19:59 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 00:19 -0600
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 09:28 -0700
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:44 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:12 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:40 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2025-09-22 11:35 +0100
                Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:58 +0200
                Re: Multiple residences rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:58 +0000
                Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:43 +0200
                Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:09 +0200
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 21:55 +1000
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-22 18:09 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:18 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:02 -0400
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:09 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:42 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:36 +0100
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:24 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:23 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:51 -0700
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:36 +0100
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:28 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:11 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 10:07 +1000
                Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-22 00:29 +0000
                Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:14 +0200
                Re: Desalinated water Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0200
                Re: Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:08 +0200
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:46 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 16:01 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 05:27 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 23:35 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:22 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 13:16 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:31 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 21:38 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 11:25 +1000
                Re: Desalinated water The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:17 +0100
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:50 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:43 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:11 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:24 +0000
                Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 20:07 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:25 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 19:35 -0700
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-22 21:25 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:29 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:46 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 05:12 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:00 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 20:32 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 02:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:39 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:08 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:24 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:42 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:25 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:03 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:49 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:22 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:44 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:32 +0100
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:18 -0400
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 04:57 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:48 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 22:38 -0700
              Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-19 12:05 +0200
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-19 07:58 -0700
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:37 +0000
        Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:10 +0200
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:55 +0000
      Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 01:55 +0100
        Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-17 23:21 -0400
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:55 +0000
          Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:32 +0100
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:27 +0000
              Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 09:07 +1000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 00:20 -0400
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 14:57 +1000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-19 11:41 -0600
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 18:55 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:36 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-20 14:44 +1000
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:09 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:29 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 05:17 +0000
        Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:22 +0200
          Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 12:40 +0100
          Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 08:56 -0700
            Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 18:30 +0000
              Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 14:22 -0700
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:50 +0000
            Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
              Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 04:51 +0000
              Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 10:01 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:32 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:34 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:29 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:15 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:16 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:54 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:10 +0100
      Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:27 +0000
        Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-18 00:06 -0400
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:58 +0000

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