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Re: Floppies

From Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage
Subject Re: Floppies
Date 2025-09-26 00:06 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <10b4htb$ki35$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 2025-09-25, Peter Moylan wrote:

> On 25/09/25 19:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 25/09/2025 05:41, lar3ryca wrote:
>>> Of course I am what is called in Canada, a private pilot. An
>>> airline pilot does not have to worry about the CofA. He is assigned
>>> to a flight, and away he goes.
>>
>> Actually, I don't think he does.
>>
>> He cannot fly a plane that does not meet safety criteria without
>> risking his licence. He is required to view the maintenance log for
>> any outstanding issues, and physically inspect the plane, and is
>> fully within his rights to refuse to fly it if it does not meet
>> safety criteria.
>>
>> I remember being held for 45 minutes while a mechanic was called in
>> to replace a blown bulb in a panel of warning lights...
>
> I once sat in a plane for two hours in Brussels, before a decision not
> to take off. We were put in a hotel overnight while a spare part was
> flown in from Singapore.
>
> On another occasion, on a flight from San Francisco to Sydney, the plane
> ran out of fuel and had to land at some obscure Pacific island. The
> refuelling took a couple of hours, then we taxied out to the runway ...
> and had to turn back when a tyre burst. That was on Pan Am, which
> already had a bad reputation for poor maintenance.

Unless I'm mistaken, running out of fuel in such a journey is *not*
something light, that could just happen out of the blue, so what
happened?

Some mistake refueling, or did Pan Am maintenance do something like Air
Transat did in the aircraft of their flight 236?  (2001 YYZ-LIS,
emergency landing on TER. That one burst tyres too, but because of the
forces involved in the unpowered landing (together with the lack of some
powered braking mechanisms?).

-- 
Nuno Silva

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  Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:33 +0200
    Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 20:17 -0400
      lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:10 +0200
        Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:53 +0000
          Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:24 +0200
            Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:38 +0000
              Re: lodgings "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 20:54 +0200
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:24 +0000
                Re: lodgings Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:05 +0000
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 16:18 +0000
                Re: lodgings Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 16:52 +0000
                Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 23:42 +0000
          Re: lodgings Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:24 -0700
            Re: lodgings rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 03:52 +0000
    Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-22 20:48 +0100
      Re: Floppies Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2025-09-22 21:17 +0100
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:06 +0000
          Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 21:08 +1000
            Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:04 +0100
            Travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:25 +0200
              Re: Travel Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 14:10 -0700
                Re: Travel "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:02 +0200
                Re: Travel Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 17:54 -0700
              Re: Travel Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-24 08:44 +1000
                Re: Travel rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:20 +0000
                Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 22:57 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-24 14:30 -0700
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:01 +0000
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:17 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 20:33 -0400
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:15 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 23:58 +0000
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:20 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:10 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:13 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:31 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:14 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:27 +0200
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-25 11:14 +0000
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 12:50 +0100
                Re: Jules Verne and SciFi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:29 +0200
          Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:00 +0100
            Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 16:34 -0600
              Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:08 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 21:54 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 23:23 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:26 -0600
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:28 -0600
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:33 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-25 15:15 +0200
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:06 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:14 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 22:02 -0600
              Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 01:27 -0400
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 15:06 -0600
                Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-25 06:03 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 15:02 -0600
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 10:02 +1000
                Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-24 22:25 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 05:54 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-09-25 09:15 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 05:47 +0000
                Morse code "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 14:35 +0200
                Re: Morse code Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-25 15:15 +0200
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:00 +0000
      Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 14:38 -0600
        Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:08 +0000
          Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:10 +0100
        Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:35 +0200
          Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 07:30 +0000
          Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-23 16:46 -0600
            Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-24 06:06 +0200
              Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-24 22:41 -0600
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:05 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:10 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-26 14:58 -0600
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-27 00:23 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 23:25 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 07:08 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:30 +0100
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 20:51 +1000
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 00:06 +0100
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-26 09:59 +1000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 05:12 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:54 +0100
                Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-25 09:09 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:38 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:16 -0600
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 10:57 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
            Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 21:19 +0100
              Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-24 22:44 +0200
                Re: Floppies charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2025-09-24 21:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-24 23:50 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:13 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:07 +0000
            Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-25 10:06 +1000
              Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-25 05:38 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
              Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 06:14 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-25 23:25 -0600
      Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-22 17:58 -0600
        Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
        Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:15 +0100
          Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 22:38 +0200
      Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
        Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 19:11 -0700
      Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:04 +0000
        Re: Floppies Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2025-09-23 19:05 +1200
      Dream university Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:33 +0200
        Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:21 +0100
          Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:06 +0000
            Re: Dream university Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-23 19:30 -0400
              Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:22 +0000
                Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:38 +0100
        Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:00 +0000
      Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:03 +0200
        Re: Relocating Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:13 +0100
          Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:37 +0200
        Re: Relocating rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:50 +0000
          Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:18 +0200

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