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Re: Jules Verne and SciFi

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Jules Verne and SciFi
Date 2025-09-25 14:15 +0200
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On 2025-09-24 23:30, John Ames wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2025 22:57:25 +0200
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I take SciFi as following science rules. If a law is broken, it has
>> to be explained how. Usually some law is broken, like having
>> superluminal speed crafts, but is an assumption they make.
>>
>> But well, Verne was not yet SciFi, was maybe the best precursor.
> 
> Bless him, he was no scientist (if we take the example of "20,000
> Leagues," he doesn't seem to understand that electric power systems
> require a power source other than "um, electricity?" 

But in this case it fits in the rules of SciFi. There is some fictional 
science, something is bent. In this case, that you can have batteries 
generating a lot of electricity. Ok, we know that is not true, but we 
accept it. The rest fits around it, more or less plausibly.

> and the less said
> about geology and volcanology in "Journey to the Center of the Earth"
> the better,) and suffered from the common 19th-century weediness of
> prose (although that may be in part a fault of his translators; I yield
> to Francophones on that point.)
> 
> But by *God* was he a terrific "ideas man." It's hard to name a story
> of his that doesn't at least catch the imagination with a "hey,
> *that's* a cool notion" premise, however it works out in the execution.
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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