Re: Desalinated water

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage
Subject	Re: Desalinated water
Date	2025-09-22 14:08 +0200
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On 2025-09-22 13:37, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Den 22.09.2025 kl. 13.14 skrev Carlos E.R.:
> 
>>> The economic costs of water (supply/demand) will mean a new source
>>> of water will be used: the sea.
>>
>> It is expensive water. It is fine for cities, I think most of the 
>> water I drink comes from such a plant. But it is too expensive for 
>> profitable agriculture, unless the pricing structure changes 
>> significantly, or it becomes subsidized somehow. Also the water has to 
>> be ducted to higher ground, against gravity.
> 
> At some point the water will be so expensive that it's profitable to use 
> seawater.

Well, we are getting there.

We have a water transfer system that allowed agriculture to bloom in the 
Cartagena area at industrial levels. We sell a lot of produce to Germany 
an other EU countries. Quite profitable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagus-Segura_Water_Transfer

It was built during the Franco dictatorship. Now we have a democracy, 
and the area of the donating river wants that water for themselves. They 
are winning in court, it seems.

So the only alternative for farmers at some point in the future will be 
desalinization, or nothing.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:34 +0100
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-24 09:05 +1000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:27 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 18:19 -0700
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-23 21:40 -0400
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:33 +0100
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-24 08:26 -0700
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 09:37 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:15 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 10:25 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 19:27 +0000
                Topic drift and culture wars (was Re: Floppies) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-25 05:54 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:54 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:18 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:38 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 16:19 +0200
                Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 19:59 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:01 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 07:58 +0200
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:35 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:33 +0200
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:01 +0200
                Re: Floppies Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-09-22 12:12 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 09:01 -0700
                Anarchy Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 06:30 +0200
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 08:48 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:28 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:21 +0000
                Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:49 +0200
                Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:02 +0100
                Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 20:19 +0200
                Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:14 +0100
                Re: Ousting a king rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:52 +0000
                Re: Ousting a king Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 15:03 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:48 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:53 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 19:59 +0200
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 00:19 -0600
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 09:28 -0700
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:44 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:12 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:40 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2025-09-22 11:35 +0100
                Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:58 +0200
                Re: Multiple residences rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:58 +0000
                Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:43 +0200
                Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:09 +0200
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 21:55 +1000
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-22 18:09 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:18 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:02 -0400
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:09 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:42 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:36 +0100
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:24 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:23 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:51 -0700
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:36 +0100
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:28 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:11 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 10:07 +1000
                Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-22 00:29 +0000
                Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:14 +0200
                Re: Desalinated water Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0200
                Re: Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:08 +0200
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:46 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 16:01 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 05:27 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 23:35 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:22 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 13:16 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:31 +0000
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 21:38 -0700
                Re: Desalinated water Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 11:25 +1000
                Re: Desalinated water The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:17 +0100
                Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 10:02 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:50 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:43 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:11 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:24 +0000
                Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 20:07 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:25 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 19:35 -0700
                Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-22 21:25 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:29 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:46 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 05:12 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:00 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 20:32 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 02:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:39 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:08 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:24 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:42 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:25 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:03 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:49 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:22 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:44 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:32 +0100
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:18 -0400
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 04:57 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:48 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 22:38 -0700
            Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-19 12:05 +0200
              Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-19 07:58 -0700
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:37 +0000
      Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:10 +0200
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:55 +0000
    Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 01:55 +0100
      Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-17 23:21 -0400
      Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:55 +0000
        Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:32 +0100
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:27 +0000
            Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 09:07 +1000
              Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
              Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 00:20 -0400
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 14:57 +1000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-19 11:41 -0600
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 18:55 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:36 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-20 14:44 +1000
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:09 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:29 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:43 +0100
              Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 05:17 +0000
      Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:22 +0200
        Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 12:40 +0100
        Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 08:56 -0700
          Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 18:30 +0000
            Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 14:22 -0700
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:50 +0000
          Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 04:51 +0000
            Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 10:01 +0100
              Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:32 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:34 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:29 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:15 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:16 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:54 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:10 +0100
    Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:27 +0000
      Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-18 00:06 -0400
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:58 +0000

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