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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | israel/Palestine |
| Date | 2025-10-13 12:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d30vrlxis1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 2025-10-12 23:24, Chris wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 11/10/2025 12:22, Chris wrote: >>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 10/10/2025 13:24, Chris wrote: >>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On 09/10/2025 20:55, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-10-09, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are being lied to shat upon and enslaved all the time we are not >>>>>>>> 'wealthy' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And both sides of the political party like to keep it that way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And you call _me_ a doom pixie... :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>> Now that's Greta Thunberg, the 100% dyed in the wool definitely not >>>>>> Yuman doom pixie. >>>>>> >>>>>> The rumour is that she was recorded every minute of her time in Israeli >>>>>> hands and her claims of being maltreated have been quietly responded to >>>>>> with a 'STFU. We have the tapes. And can prove you are a lying fraud.' >>>>> >>>>> Sure. The IDF are *absolutely* the most trustworthy party here with no >>>>> history of extrajudicial activity, lies and murder. <eye roll> >>>>> >>>> Yes, they are. >>> >>> WTF? What planet are you on?! >>> >>>> Way better than e.g. HAMAS whose story of genocide is not backed up by >>>> anyone else >>> >>> Except for the very Genocide Convention established after WWII following >>> the Nazi atrocities. The UNHCR commissioned report has indeed called out >>> Israel for committing genocide in gaza with direct reference to the >>> Convention. >>> https://www.thegenocidereport.org/dispatches/un-commission-of-inquiry-genocide-in-gaza/ >>> >> I am sorry, but the UN agencies have blotted their copybooks once too >> often to be reliable either. > > Even if that were true, you trust the IDF more? Sorry, but that's just > laughable. > >> According to HAMAS more civilians have been killed than lived in Gaza >> to start with, > > I mean, no-one is taking solely Hamas's point of view. > >> Palestinians spit on Hamas. Everything they do is a >> 'spectacular' designed to generate anti-semitism around the world. > > Yes, they are a terrorist organisation. There's no debate there. Absolutely. > >> No one knows what is going on in Gaza except Hamas, and they will be >> lying, and to an extent the IDF, who may or may not be. > > Both will be definitely lying. > > Fortunately, there are plenty of third party reports available since the > beginning of the war. > >> And the UN bases >> its judgement on what HAMAS tells it. > > That's clearly a lie. True. >>> There is very little debate that the IDF has committed atrocities on >>> civilians in Gaza over the last two years in contravention of international >>> law and war-time convention. >>> >> >> Amongst the Librlal Left, no. Amongst people who understand the >> duplicity of islamic terrorism, very much so. > > I see you're fine with the murder of women and children through the > attempted pursuit of extermination of an ideology which is both futile and > illegal. > >>> None of this detracts from the Hamas-led terrorist murders of 7th October. >>> Both sides are guilty, but the disproportionate use of force by the IDF and >>> the Isreali state has taken it to another level. >>> >> You really do not know. > > I know that there are plenty of credible reports supporting only one side's > narrative. 1m Palestinians have been displaced multiple times. Journalists > have been targeted and murdered. Food, water and medicines have been > weaponised resulting in famine. Hospitals destroyed. Civilians targeted and > killed in the 10s of thousands. Absolutely. The destruction of hospitals and murdering of journalists can not be justified. Nor the killing by famine, this is a war crime. No matter if your enemy is evil. > > Whereas the IDF and the Israeli state has a decades long history of > excessive force with impunity both inside and outside of its borders. They > attacked Qatar FFS. They have very little credibility especially under > Netanyahu. True. > >> You are simply accepting the claims of >> terrorist who have every reason to lie, as fact. > > I'm accepting nothing from terrorists. Only the most blinkered or partisan > will refuse to believe what can be seen with your own eyes. Yes. > The Israeli government have every reason to lie. Otherwise they would have > to admit to having committed atrocities. Indeed. > >>> Any attempt to diminish criticism by calling it antisemitic is cheap and >>> disrespectful of actual antisemitism. >> >> What I am seeing in Britain is 100% anti-semitism. > > What does that even mean? 100% of what? > >> Jews in fear of their >> lives. Not Israelis. Not Zionists. Just ordinary quiet peace loving Jews. > > That is unfortunately true. I have seen the posts on media made by Israeli soldiers arriving to Spain on vacation... The way the Israelis have behaved, they have sown hatred of all their people for generations to come. I was proisraeli before. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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