Re: Nuclear plants.

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Nuclear plants.
Date	2025-10-07 11:37 +0100
Organization	A little, after lunch
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On 07/10/2025 11:15, Pancho wrote:
> On 10/7/25 10:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 07/10/2025 10:28, Pancho wrote:
>>> On 10/6/25 13:45, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 06/10/2025 12:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-10-06 03:08, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 10/5/2025 3:47 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At some point in the future, civilization dissolves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's not that far away actually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ask your AI for details, check for technical limits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, there is a new guy with yellow or orange hair, actively 
>>>>> seeking it.
>>>>>
>>>> Stacey Dooley? She only wants to film it...
>>>
>>> I think he meant Trump, rather than Stacey. If you get confused 
>>> between the two, try imagining which one you would like to see naked.
>>
>> Old age renders that rather meaningless...
>>
>> All my life people have been prophesying Doom. Making films about 
>> Doom. Using Doom to sell products I don't want, to me.
>>
>> Somehow, however, the human race staggers on, finding a way to survive 
>> (after trying every other alternative).
>>
>> Eventually nuclear power will be understood to be the only way to 
>> survive. And 'renewable energy' will go into the box of 'stuff we 
>> pretend we didn't believe in really' like eugenics and Christianity.
>>
>>
> 
> Yeah, I think we always disagree on this. I believe probability 
> distributions, normal approximations, are wrong due to fat tails. This 
> means exceptional events are more likely than we believe.
> 
Sure. Except they aren't 'wrong' just 'not necessarily a risk worth taking'

> AI, nuclear war, pandemics, climate change do scare me. 

Me too, but a lot less than a comet strike, a Labour government or 
bronchitis and pneumonia...

> The 
> non-proliferation risks of nuclear power don't scare me. Or more 
> precisely, they scare me a lot less than the alternative of not using 
> nuclear power.

Well then we agree?

The risks of using nuclear power are massively less than the risks of 
not using it...

Back in the day, automobiles were restricted  to a walking pace with a 
man with a red flag required to precede them.

Of course accidents happened, but in fact the risks of motor vehicles 
with half way  decent brakes and steering were far far less than of 
horse drawn carriages without either...



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This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and 
all women"

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  Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-26 11:10 +0100
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    Re: Nuclear plants. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-26 16:36 +0000
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                Re: Nuclear plants. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-07 12:40 +0100
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                Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 05:28 +0100
                Re: Nuclear plants. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-13 12:47 +0100
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                Re: OT: Israel and Palestine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0100
                Re: OT: Israel and Palestine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 18:49 +0000
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                Re: OT: Israel and Palestine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 13:08 +0100
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                Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-08 09:27 +0100
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                Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-09 12:19 +0100
                Re: Nuclear plants. Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-10-11 21:18 +0000
                Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:09 +0000
                Re: Nuclear plants. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-10-12 00:05 -0400
                Re: Nuclear plants. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-12 11:19 +0100
                Re: Nuclear plants. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-12 21:49 +1100
                Re: Nuclear plants. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-12 12:48 +0100
                Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 18:36 +0000
                Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:40 +0100
                Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:35 +0100
                Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:33 +0100
                Re: Nuclear plants. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 18:30 +0000
                Re: Nuclear plants. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-09 00:04 +1100
                Re: Nuclear plants. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-08 14:31 +0100
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