Re: OT: Israel and Palestine

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: OT: Israel and Palestine
Date	2025-10-18 19:47 +0200
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On 2025-10-18 14:37, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 14/10/2025 8:10 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 13/10/2025 20:17, Chris wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 13/10/2025 18:31, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-10-13, Pancho wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The demographics of Israel, and the West, meant that the survival of
>>>>>> the Jewish state was always touch and go, but now I think it is
>>>>>> doomed. They should have accepted a two-state solution 40 years ago,
>>>>>> but due to settlement, I don't think that is a practical option any
>>>>>> more. Instead, they have spent 40 years kicking the can down the
>>>>>> road. Appeasing the Settlers. Hoping something would turn up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't a two-state solution accepted at least twice by the State of
>>>>> Israel? Or is this a matter of a divide between the state and its
>>>>> people?
>>>>>
>>>> It doesn't suit the 'victim' status of Hamas to accept a State to run.
>>>> And when they did all its money went into killing Israelis.
>>>>
>>>> I see now that Hamas has already started beating up on rival Islamic 
>>>> groups
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PhwLrFcwUY
>>>
>>> Why can't you get over the fact that Hamas is not the palestinian people
>>> nor representatives of a palestinian state? They are terrorists that 
>>> want
>>> the destruction of Israel. The palestinians want to live in peace with
>>> self-determination and without oppression.
>>>
>> Then why did they vote for Hamas to be their government?
>>
> Did they actually elect a Hamas Government?? Or did they elect some 
> people who turned out to be Hamas supporters??

 From memory, one part of the land elected a civilian party, and the 
other part of the land elected Hamas. which presented itself to the 
elections.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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