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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon

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In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Nothing.
>>>>
>>>>The pre-Columbian Americas had a population estimated by scholars of
>>>>somewhere beteen 50 million and 100 million people.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> And then they died, so survival is not the dead cinch that the chimp
>>> insists it is.
>>
>>80% to 90% from European diseases, so apparently it was before the
>>Europeans showed up.
>>
> 
> Most of that postulated number died before they ever met a European.

Nope.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2sx6h9/whats_the_current_scholarly_consensus_of/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas 

http://www2.nau.edu/~alcoze/for398/class/pristinemyth.html

> 
>>>>
>>>>The technology level of the more advanced civilizations was roughly
>>>>equivelant to the Bronze Age in Europe and iron pre-Columbian arifacts
>>>>have been found indicating they were on the leading edge of the Iron Age.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Yes and no.  There was ONE culture that developed bronze age
>>> technology but underused it (mostly for decoration, so the color was
>>> more important than the quality of the metallurgy).  That gradually
>>> spread, was lost, spread again.  
>>> 
>>> Iron Age?  No.  
>>
>>Edge of Iron Age, yes.
>>
> 
> No, being bronze age with limited tool use is not "edge of Iron Age".

But using iron tools is.

>>>>
>>>>Thses peoples and civilizations existed for thousands of years before
>>>>any European arrived.
>>>>
>>>>Therefore it is obvious that support from Europe is not needed to be able
>>>>to survive and thrive in the Americas.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> After you've had thousands of years.  Again, most inhabitants of the
>>> new world were right at the edge of survival.  Jim never explains why
>>> so many cultures and colonies died.
>>
>>The time it took to happen is irrelevant, it happened.
>>
> 
> The time it took to happen is very relevant.  Give a Mars colony the
> same amount of time...

Nope; the time it took inidiginous peoples in the Americas to get to
bronze age technology has nothing to do with anything on Mars.


>>0% to 90% of the indiginous people died from European diseases for which
>>they had zero immunity.
>>
> 
> So survival wasn't so easy after all.

Sure it was until disease carrying Europeans showed up.

50 million to 100 million people and growing.

None of which has anything to do with Mars.

>>
>>And as I have said several times before, the Europeans mostly died of
>>stupidity; chasing non-existant gold, disease, not tending to crops,
>>poor site planning, fighting with the indiginous people, fighting
>>with other political entities.
>>
> 
> You can repeat incorrect things as frequently as you like.  Repetition
> doesn't make them correct.

You can deny the truth as frequently as you like. Repetition doesn't make
it so.

>>>>Mars on the other hand requires 21st century technology to survive for
>>>>longer than about 5 seconds, i.e. the time of useful consciousness at
>>>>the pressure on the surface of Mars. The pressure is so low it is below
>>>>the Armstrong limit which means the human body requires a pressure suit,
>>>>not just an oxygen mask.
>>>>
>>>>Comparing colonization on Mars to colonization of the Americas is mostly
>>>>pointless on that fact alone and becomes entirely so when the complete
>>>>lack of available drinking water and food sources is concidered.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Yet Jim insists on those comparisons.  Then when it doesn't go as he
>>> wants it is suddenly irrelevant.
>>
>>Nope, I never insisted on comparing colonization of Mars to colononization
>>of the Americas, that was you.
>>
> 
> Liar.  You're the one constantly nattering on about how you can "drop
> people naked in colonies on Earth and they survive".

Yes, Earth. Earth with air, food, and water.

If survival on Earth is so difficult, how did cave man survive?

>>
>>I actually think that comparison is childish, stupdid, and ignorant
>>of reality.
>>
> 
> Then why do you keep bringing it up?

See above.

Hint: Earth with food, air and water.

>>>>
>>>>21st century technology rquires global resources that are spread all over
>>>>the Earth, a global transportation system to bring those resources to
>>>>processing centers to make raw stock and transportation to fabricating
>>>>centers to make finished goods.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Jim needs to learn more about just what it takes to survive on Mars.
>>> Air and water aren't that difficult.  Jim ignores any evidence that
>>> disagrees with his preconceptions.  All it really takes for SURVIVAL
>>> on Mars is power, which is not that hard to bootstrap.  Yes, you have
>>> to bring in some 'starter' resources.  This shouldn't be any surprise
>>> to anyone, but seems to astound Jim and leave him with the view that
>>> that somehow makes colonization impossible.
>>
>>Power gives you some air and water, but it is not a magic bullet if
>>talking about a large, growing colony as opposed to a research station
>>with limited needs.
>>
> 
> And we're from 'survival' to "living in a rich suburb" as your
> criterion for 'colony'.

I never said anything about a rich suburb, those are your words.

I have ALWAYS been talking about basic survival.

>>For example, it has been said there is frozen water below the Martian
>>surface so all that needs to be done is dig it up and melt it.
>>
> 
> "It has been said" because we've touched it.  So you can replace your
> "it has been said" with "there is".

Fine, there is ice buried on Mars.
 
>>
>>That is all well and good until you have dug up all the ice in the
>>area, which unlike a flowing river, does not replenish itself quickly.
>>
> 
> Apparently there is free flowing water on Mars periodically, so it
> would seem you might be mistaken in this assertion.  Even if it moves
> as poorly as possible, I'm left with a big 'so what?' as my response.
> Ever hear of these things called 'pipes'?

Yep, and they work just fine with liquid water and not pipes.

There are definitely no rivers or creeks on Mars.

Unless the ice replenishes itself faster than you use it, you have to
go somewhere else for more ice.

That kind of works against having a large colony buried in the ground.

>>>>It is unlikely that resource distribution is any different on Mars than
>>>>it is on Earth, other than the complete lack of hydrocarbon sources such
>>>>as petroleum. coal, and natural gas.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Incorrect.  Most Martian minerals are oxides of some sort, which makes
>>> getting oxygen not all that difficult.  There is lots of available
>>> water, which makes that simple as well as acting as another potential
>>> source of oxygen.  
>>
>>The point was those resources, just like the Earth, are most likely 
>>spread all over the planet and not all in one nice neat place.
>>
> 
> That's why you pick your spot(s) instead of just plopping your ass
> down in Joe Random Crater.  The oxides are pretty much everywhere.
> Ditto power.  So you locate near a lot of water.

Yes, I'm sure all 98 elements are pretty much everywhere.

It is not that was on Earth and highly unlikely to be on Mars.

>>The resources needed to support 21st century technology consists of
>>most all of the first 98 elements of the periodic table.
>>
> 
> Both false and irrelevant.  Irrelevant because you have now not
> talking about 'self-sufficient' survival anymore, but totally import
> free.  By that measure, there aren't any successful colonies in North
> America yet; they're still importing.

Self sufficient survival means not being dependent on imports to survive.

And guess what, 21st century technology couldn't exist on Earth without
imports either, just that we don't have to import it from somewhere off
the planet nor do we absolutely need it to survive.

>>>>
>>>>Until such global transportation and manufacturing abilities exist on
>>>>Mars, the only way a Martian colony could expand, or even maintain
>>>>the technology, to eventually become self sustaining is to import parts
>>>>and finished goods from Earth. Note that we are talking about real
>>>>technology like computers, enviromental controllers, motors with rare
>>>>earth parts, etc., but even 20th century technology such as sheet
>>>>aluminimum, all the alloys of steel, and plastics will take a long
>>>>time.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Note that Jim is wrong here.  He imposes an unnecessary 'requirement'
>>> and then complains that because it cannot be met that colonization is
>>> impossible.
>>
>>See above and the number of elements needed to support 21st century
>>technology.
>>
> 
> See above and that you're on your ass.

No matter how many times you deny the truth, it is still the truth.

Make a list on uneeded elements if you are so sure.

>>>>If it is actually a colony with life time residents and kids, after not
>>>>too many years the population increases from Martian births and the
>>>>technology gets older and more prone to failure and the need for supplies
>>>>to maintain and expand infrastructure increases on the high end tech stuff.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Just like every other colony on Earth.  Life at the top requires
>>> imports.  Life at the bottom, not so much.
>>
>>An expanding colony requires expanding resources and repair parts that
>>can not be supplied locally until you have a global colony as described
>>above.
>>
> 
> Poppycock!  That's only true if your definition of 'colony' is now
> "rich suburb in Connecticut".

So if there are more people they don't need more equipment and old
equipment does not wear out and break?
 
>>>>Someone has to pay for the acquisition and transport of the parts and
>>>>goods to Mars.
>>>>
>>>>There are two ways to pay that bill:
>>>>
>>>>1. Gifts from Earth, i.e tax money.
>>>>
>>>>2. Profit from Martian exports.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Note that English colonies in North America could not 'pay that bill',
>>> either.  Also note that Jim is rather unimaginative with regard to how
>>> a Mars civilization could 'make money' and just ignores anything that
>>> doesn't fit his "shipping rocks" mind set for 'products'.
>>
>>Note that the requirements to survive in a 16th century world
>>are entirely different than the requirements to survive on Mars.
>>
> 
> Note that 'high tech imports required' is 'high tech imports
> required', whether one is talking 'high tech' in the 16th century or
> high tech in the 21st century.  That's why we're just getting around
> to Mars.  DOH!

Note that you are evading the issue that someone has to pay for stuff.

>>
>>And no matter how you try to evade it, someone has to pay for it.
>>
> 
> And no matter how you try to deny it, lots of models to do that have
> been offered.  

And you have still offered nothing more than some rediculous arm waving
about telecommunications and maybe programming from Mars.

>>>>Given that maintaining even a small colony will cost billions of dollars,
>>>>and expanding it planet wide untold trillions of dollars, it is unlikely
>>>>to be payed for from gifts.
>>>>
>>>>There is no resource on Mars that has enough profit in exporting it to
>>>>Earth to generate those untold trillions of dollars so exports are out
>>>>also.
>>>>
>>>>If someone thinks otherwise, name that good.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Note that I've already done that for him.  He just doesn't like that
>>> there is an answer, so he ignores it.
>>
>>Nope, you arm waved about telecommunications and software.
>>
> 
> So you insist on something at the level of predicting Microsoft and
> Apple in 1940?  Now you're just being silly.

Nope, something worth importing from Mars in the near decades.

>>> Most of those 'untold trillions' are largely in 'internal to Mars'
>>> money and thus are unrelated to his 'shipping rocks'.  Ask yourself
>>> how the American West was settled.
>>
>>Nope, again we are talking about the trillions in stuff that has to be
>>acquired on Earth and shipped to Mars to maintain and expand the colooy.
>>
> 
> Yep, largely 'internal Mars' money.

Nope, has to be spent on Earth for acquistion on Earth and shipping
from Earth.

>>
>>The American West was settled by farmers in horse drawn wagons with
>>hand tools and sacks of seed, which is hardly relevant to Mars.
>>
> 
> Do you not know shit about the settlement of the American West,
> either?  Go read up on covered wagons.

Yes, and the American West is pretty irelevant to Mars.

Establish a new family on Earth:

Load the horse drawn wagon the the wife, kids, hand tools, initial 
provisions for the trip, some caged chickens and a sack of seeds.

Find a nice spot near lumber and water sources.

Plant seeds, cut timber to build cabin,d dig a well so as to not have
to walk as far to get water, build a chicken coop, dig a hole and build
an outhouse. If you forgot to bring a plow, make a wooden one.

While waiting for the first crop, forage for wild vegetables, fish, and
hunt game and eat some of the eggs from the chickens.

If you see any Indians, don't piss them off; try to make friends.


Establish a new community on Earth:

Do several of the above and include some trademen like blacksmiths,
carpenters, and wheelwrights to form the town.


Establsh a new family on Mars:

Haul in a huge pile of technology, materials, tools, food, oxygen and
water and repair parts by some means.

Put up a radiation sheilded structure or bury a non-shielded staructure.

Install pressurization system with oxygen tanks and CO2 scrubbers.

Install water tanks and plumbing system with toilets and refuse system.

Install heating system.

Install water recyling system and refuse to fertilizer system.

Install power system to run it all. 

Set up system to generate oxygen from rocks and pipe it into the structue.

Set up system to mine ice, melt it, purify it, and pipe it into the 
structure tanks.

Set up pressurized environment to grow food and connect to the power,
water, and oxygen system.

Plant seeds.

While waiting for the first crop, eat the tons of provisions you brought
with you.

Prey nothing breaks and if it does that you have a repair part.

Establish a new community on Mars:

Do above N number of times.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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