Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon

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Subject	Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon
Date	2016-04-09 20:41 +0000
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In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> 
>>In sci.physics Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>For your reference, records indicate that 
>>>>Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fred J  McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > Colonies always need supply and support initially.  Colonies off the
>>>>> > Earth will be no different.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The main problem I see for space coloies is the complexity of the
>>>>> technology that is needed for survival, if spare parts cannot be
>>>>> imported.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take a simple O-ring used as a seal as as an example.
>>>>
>>>>No, don?t!  The entire problem here is that people are coming at the 
>>>>challenge from an Earth-based perspective.  Yes, it is absolutely true 
>>>>that everything that comes from Earth is going to have Earth-optimized 
>>>>production and Earth-centric uses.  But you need to immediately shift 
>>>>your thinking to the location you?re at, whether it?s the Moon or Mars 
>>>>or elsewhere, and begin thinking about what you can do with the r
>>>>esources you have at hand.  It might mean thinking up an entirely new 
>>>>solution to the problem than using something from Earth.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Exactly.  Most things will get done different in an off-world colony
>>> than they are here.  The best example of that is Chimp's insisting
>>> that a colony needs a multi-hundred megawatt PWR with a river or lake
>>> for cooling.  You'd never go down the path to build such a thing
>>> somewhere that you didn't have free flowing water.  You'll solve the
>>> 'power problem' some other way.  For example, start with
>>> self-contained reactors of much smaller size (a few hundred thousand
>>> kWe) that don't require rivers to cool.  Keep adding those and
>>> bootstrap to large solar arrays produced from in situ resources.
>>> 
>>>>> So, is there a way around this?  You can try to restrict yourself
>>>>> to the materials that you really, really need.  This will mean
>>>>> that your solutions will be much worse than what you could get on
>>>>> Earth by just ordering the products you needed.  I am not sure
>>>>> that this will be easy given the harshness of your environment,
>>>>> where your solutions should be good if you want to survive.
>>>>
>>>>This may be true.  There must be some minimum mix of resources that allow 
>>>>a human-level colony to self-sustainingly survive on a world.  We?ll find 
>>>>it by exploring the problem, not by dismissing it out of hand just because 
>>>>our thinking is limited by some ?irreducible complexity? argument.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Look at Musk's "Mars Colony Transporter" plan.  He's talking about 90
>>> TONS of supply per colonist and eventually sending them in batches of
>>> 100 (9 cargo launches per colonist launch).  He thinks he can run that
>>> 'break even' at $5 million per launch ($50 million for 100 colonists
>>> and all their supplies).  I think he's a little optimistic, but...
>> 
>>Now all he needs to do is find people without dicks that are willng to go.
>>
> 
> Not that hard.

I meant other than crack whores promised an endless supply of crack.

You now, normal women that want families and kids and grandkids.

Or maybe you don't know of such things.
 
>>
>>As $50 million is chump change to his net worth, why hasn't he started?
>> 
> 
> He has.  However, unlike you, he recognizes that there is no 'instant'
> colony solution.
 
So where is this space port, assembly line for the rockets, warehouses
for the supplies and training facilities for the volunteers needed to get
started?

There is no development required for warehouses and training facilities
so why isn't it started?


-- 
Jim Pennino

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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400
  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0000
      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-04 18:35 +0000
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2016-04-04 12:14 -0700
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:58 -0700
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-04-05 03:50 -0400
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:20 +0000
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 16:14 -0700
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:47 -0500
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                Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:20 -0700
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