Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon

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Subject	Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon
Date	2016-04-07 20:26 +0000
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In sci.physics Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
> Fred J  McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> schrieb:
> 
>> Colonies always need supply and support initially.  Colonies off the
>> Earth will be no different.
> 
> The main problem I see for space coloies is the complexity of the
> technology that is needed for survival, if spare parts cannot be
> imported.
> 
> Take a simple O-ring used as a seal as as an example.
> 
> Currently, this is made from an elastomer.  If it needs to
> withstand oil, you will probably need NBR, a rubber made from
> 1-3-Butadiene and Acrylonitrile.
> 
> So, you need 1-3-Butadiene.
> 
> You can get that from a C4 stream coming from a steam cracker, which
> needs a hydrocarbon feedstock and is an enormously complex chemical
> plant, requiring catalysts and dozens of distillation columns.
> To separate it from the other C4 products, you usually use a sulfuric
> acid extraction.  A steam cracker also produces dozens of other
> products, which you will have to dispose of (wasteful) or 
> use (for what?)
> 
> Hmm... maybe not that, dehydrogenation of n-Butane may be better.
> Dehydrogenation catalyst needed, typically Platinum.  To get
> n-Butane, you need a steam cracker.
> 
> Or maybe dehydrogenate Ethanol (a catalytic reaction, of course).
> 
> OK, let's assume we have Butadiene.  Next, we need acrylonitrile,
> which is made from Propylene and Ammonia.
> 
> Propylene you get from that steam cracker (see above).  Ammonia
> manufacture is a high-pressure process requiring nitrogen and
> hydrogen.  Nitrogen on the Moon will be hard to get, on Mars
> it could be done.
> 
> Because NBR is made by emulsion polymerization, you need emulsifiers
> (and water).  Emulsifiers are basically soap, so please set up
> your soap factory somewhere.
> 
> Now you've got the basic polymer, please also set up your plants for
> making all the additives which make it into a usable rubber.
> 
> And set up the plants for making the catalysts that the different
> processes above require.
> 
> You can't really use the latex produced in the polymerizaion, so
> please use your ready-made plant for precipitation and washing of
> the latex and drying (which could involve both a screw and a dryer).
> Think of a way to deal with the huge amount of waste water this
> will generate, and don't forget the Polyethylene film to wrap
> it in.
> 
> Now you've got your rubber bale, but it is not yet an O-Ring.
> You need to compound and vulcanize it.
> 
> Just grabbing a random recipe from the net, please also have
> ready your Zinc Oxide, Magnesium oxide, Stearic acid, Styrenated
> Phenol, Benzothiazol Disulfide (an accelerator), Tetramethyl
> Thiuram Disulfide (another accelerator), Carbon Black, Sulfur and
> Dioctyl phtalate.  Also put some old motor oil in, and Add a few
> anti-aging and anti-oxydizing chemicals while you're at it.
> 
> And this is just to make one simple everyday part that you
> could order for a few cents on Earth.
> 
> So, is there a way around this?  You can try to restrict yourself
> to the materials that you really, really need.  This will mean
> that your solutions will be much worse than what you could get on
> Earth by just ordering the products you needed.  I am not sure
> that this will be easy given the harshness of your environment,
> where your solutions should be good if you want to survive.
> 
> So, a self-sufficient space colony would have to be quite
> large to support something like our technological base.

McCall will never get the point and has obviously never had to make
something on a budget.


-- 
Jim Pennino

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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:52 -0400
  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-03 17:07 +0000
    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0000
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        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:58 -0700
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Jack Ryan <mixmaster@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-04-05 03:50 -0400
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-05 18:20 +0000
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 16:14 -0700
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 18:47 -0500
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