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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon

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Subject Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon
Date 2016-04-15 21:15 +0000
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Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim,
> Colonisation is about a great many different things, INCLUDING exploration.
> Yes, you want to know something avout the place where you are going to
> establish the colony, so there will ideally be a fair amount of exploration
> done beforehand. However, once established, at least some membes of the
> colony are going to cointinue exploration of the area around them that
> was not possible to do before.

Colonist settle in a place, explorers explore. It doesn't matter from where
the explorers originate.

> 
> As for species survivability, my point was that going elsewhere will
> eventually be a requirement for species survivability. Your statement
> is not quite accurate, but at lest your implication that Earth is
> currently the most conducive environment for life is correct. However,
> this will no longer be correct if we continue to destroy our environment,
> or if overpopulation consumes all our resources, including land. I
>  might not be easy to extract resources from other planets, but it is
> possible. Whereas we are approaching the limits to many resources on
> Earth, and our basic need for land makes accessong even those resources
> we have more difficult.
> I was not siggesting that we would survive elsewhere, but die out on
> Earth. Nor was I suggesting that everyone leave Earth. My issue on
> overpopulation was that we expand into space leaving population on
> Earth stable, while the rest of the solar system absorbs the inevitable
> expansion of population, in much the same way as large numbers came to
> the americas, leading very difficult lives, rather than remaining in an
> overpopulated Europe... In the same way that the initial american
> colonists progressed westward, sometimes into inhospitable desert, where
> there was insufficient water and virtually no food, rather than remain
> in a familiar, comfortable, but overpopulated East Coast.

Nobody left Europe because it was overpoplated during the colonial period.

All the people that went to inhospitable areas were to a center of some
sort, i.e. mining, transportation, not because the East Coast was
overpopulated, unless they were hermits by nature. Ever heard of stage
coach stops, pony express stops in the middle of nowhere?

If humans can not survive on the Earth, what makes you think the same
thing that wipes out humans on Earth won't eventually happen elsewhere?




-- 
Jim Pennino

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Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 00:39 -0700
  Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 17:39 +0000
    Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 01:32 -0700
      Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 21:15 +0000
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 08:51 -0700
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 16:28 +0000
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 10:44 -0700
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 18:03 +0000
        Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 10:24 -0700
          Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 17:47 +0000
            Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon Mikkel Haaheim <mikkelhaaheim@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 00:59 -0700
              Re: The European Space Agency just unveiled its plans to build a base on the moon jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-17 17:29 +0000

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