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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour |
| Date | 2026-04-25 09:40 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <op.3oa5ekoebyq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink) |
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> path >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just did this one, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google >>>>>>>>>>>> You just ignored that >>>>>>>>>>> What, that you can't Google? >>>>>>>>>> I can and do google >>>>>>>>>> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what >>>>>>>>>> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine >>>>>>>> There you go, ignoring that again >>>>>>> Yep. >>>>>> Because even you realise that you can never >>>>>> bullshit your way out of that terminal stupidity >>>>> Nope. >>>> Yep >>> Glad you agree. >> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in your AI answer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range of 425-450mL >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and always matches a schooner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't say that either >>>>>>>>>>>>> It says it over and over from the start: >>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie >>>>>>>>>>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of >>>>>>>>>>>>> beer >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Australian slang" >>>>>>>>>>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner" >>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners" >>>>>>>>>>>> Pity about >>>>>>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the >>>>>>>>>>>> state. >>>>>> Even you realise that you can never >>>>>> bullshit your way out of that stupid lie >>>>> Umm, That was your AI's lie. >>>> You haven't shown that it is a lie >>> Only a blind man couldn't see what I've shown, or one of your >>> Artificial Idiots. >> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag >>>>> But I'm glad you finally agree it was telling you BS. >>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage >>> Well yes, you are a bit. >> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something >>>>>>>>>>> Like the USSD definition, >>>>>>>>>> There was no USSD definition >>>>>>>>>>> in normal grammar the qualification at the end would only apply >>>>>>>>>>> to the part after the "--". >>>>>>>>>> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE >>>>>>>>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names >>>>>>>> That doesnt even say what the volume of a handle of beer is >>>>>>> 285ml in the NT like I quoted before. >>>>>> Pity we aren't discussing the NT, as I told you before >>>>> Your AI didn't know that. >>>> Corse it did when it mentioned Flinders Island >>> But you didn't, to it. >> Didn't need to, it worked that out for itself >>>>>>> It also says this which would >>>>>>> suggest such terms also mean less than the 425ml for a schooner >>>>>>> elsewhere in Aus: >>>>>>> "By and large, jugs, pints and schooners are a pretty universally >>>>>>> understood size (except in SA), with most of the smaller options >>>>>>> often having a name unique to the region." >>>>>> That suggests nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a >>>>>> bullshit artist >>>>> Smaller options have the names "unique to the region" such as >>>>> handle. >>>> It doesn't say that about the word handle, you pathetic excuse for a >>>> bullshit artist and NO ONE serves options in a container with a handle >>> It's about the quantity, the article actually only says they "may >>> come with a handle", >> Not with that particular volume they don't >>> but if you ever got out you'd have seenbeer glases with handles >>> before anyway. >> Not with that particular volume they don't >>> It's hillarious how wrong you are, >> We'll see... >>> here's one with "285ml" actually printed on the side! >>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/306586746914 >> Pity that says VINTAGE. > Wow, your arguments have got even weaker than your AI's nonsense. You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag > That's just too cute to dispute. You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag >>>>>>>> And neither does anything else that google turns up >>>>>> Which blows a fucking great hole in your stupid >>>>>> claim that google gets it right and grok doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC >>>>>>>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>>>>>>> was what prompted your question. >>>>>>>>>>>> But it did work that out. So much for your >>>>>>>>>>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty >>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied Australia-wide. >>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does with >>>>>>>>>>> He says while snipping where it said that. >>>>>>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the >>>>>>>>>>>> state. >>>>>>>>>> Pity about the >>>>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the >>>>>>>>>> state. >>>>>>>>>> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted >>>>>>>>>>> And replacing it with where talked about something else. >>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it talked about something else >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be way off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the NT >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial >>>>>>>>>>>>> Idiot's source is... nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a >>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit artist >>>>>>>>>>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that >>>>>>>>>>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the >>>>>>>>>>>>> accuracy >>>>>>>>>>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have >>>>>>>>>>>>> got the info from. >>>>>>>>>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the >>>>>>>>>>>> SOURCES >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions, >>>>>>>>>> More of your barefaced lies on the random >>>>>>>>>>> which it probably paid attention to instead of better results >>>>>>>>>>> like the brewery I found. >>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same >>>>>>>>>> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml >>>>>>>>> No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT, >>>>>>>> Which isnt where we are discussing, >>>>>>>> so is a completely useless result >>>>>>>>> and for the same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other >>>>>>>>> sates. >>>>>>>>> Plus it didn't know where you were asking about anyway >>>>>>>> Corse it did when it named that explicitly >>>>>>>>> so shouldn't assume what it "normally means" there. >>>>>>>> It didn't assume anything you pathetic excuse for a bullshit >>>>>>>> artist >>>>>>> It assumed everything, and clearly got it all wrong. >>>>>> It didnt get where the term handle was used >>>>>> wrong, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>>>> Did so too. >>>> How odd that you can't prove that >>> Did so too. >> Bullshit you ever did >>>>>> And you haven't extablished that the term >>>>>> handle isnt mostly used for 425-450 ml either >>>>> Did so too. >>>> How odd that you can't prove that >>> Did so too. >> Bullshit you ever did >>>>>>>>> You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your >>>>>>>>> question: >>>>>>>> It clearly did >>>>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466 >>>>>>>>> So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found >>>>>>>>> the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here: >>>>>>>>> https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf >>>>>>>>> Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest: >>>>>>>>> "6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume." >>>>>>>> Just because that fuckwit got that wrong... >>>>>>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle >>>>>> Have fun listing anywhere that does >>>>> Furneaux Tavern where David Bailey was served, of course! >>>> You don't know that you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>> The coroner knows it. >> Nope, just ignorantly CLAIMS that > So if you only believe AI BS, There is no bullshit, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > why believe anything else they claim? Because I haven't seen AI get anything wrong >>>>>>>>> So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meantin the >>>>>>>>> exact article that prompted your question! >>>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit >>>>>>>>> Its total quantity would be off by at least 2.52L! >>>>>>>> Wrong, as always >>>>>>>>> An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the >>>>>>>>> actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your >>>>>>>>> question, instead of that useless AI BS. >>>>>>>> The fuckwit coroner actually got it wrong >>>>>>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle >>>>>>> Hillarious! >>>>>> Pathetic!! >>>>> Well yes, you are a bit. >>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage >>> Well yes, you are a bit. >> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something >>>>>>> You had to ask what a handle of beer is, >>>>>> Because I had never heard that term >>>>>> used before for a measure of beer. >>>>>> The only thing that comes even close is >>>>>> a stein or a jug of beer, both of which I >>>>>> have heard plenty of times before >>>>> So obviously the brewery >>>> The brewery says nothing of the sort >>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>> You've clearly forgotten what the brewery said at this point. >> It never says that you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>>>> and coroner know more than you, >>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage >>>>> and as usual the AI doesn't know anything. >>>> Neither does google you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>>>>>> but now you're denying what a brewery, >>>>>> It never says that that term is used in Flinders Island >>>>>>> and the coroner who first used the phrase, >>>>>> And got it wrong and even google proves that >>>>> They used the phrase and defined it, >>>> With not a shred of evidence that their definition is correct >>>>> nothing on Google's going to prove they meant something else. >>>> But not a shred of evidence that they got it right >>> Where's your AI's shred of evidence they meant 425-450ml instead >>> of 285ml like they said? >> Its in the SOURCES, fuckwit > The SOURCES won't tell you what the coroner was thinking when they > said that. That wasnt about what the coroner meant, its what the TAVERN meant when they told the coroner how much he had drank >>>>>>> both say it means. On the basis of an AI response which doesn't >>>>>>> even say specificially where it got its definition from. >>>>>> More of your stupid bare faced lies with the SOURCES >>>>> No evidence which of those it paid attention to, if any. >>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage >>> Well yes, you are a bit. >> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something >>>>>> And the coroner and stoneandwood doesn't either >>>>> They're trustworthy sources themselves, >>>> Mindless bullshit with the coroner's claim >>>> which can't be substantiated anywhere >>> Their claim about the meaning of what they said themselves? >> Yep, they just claim that and never say where they got that > So there was no point to you reading the article that prompted your > question to the AI, since it was all just repeating the coroner's > claims anyway. It is in fact doing nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist
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