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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
> 
>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools have no
>>>>>>>>>>  understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't
>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>  make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko machines  
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>  the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path  
>>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>>  the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has  
>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>  hit.
> 
>>>>>>>>> Just did this one,
>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91
> 
>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would
>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that
>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and
>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google
> 
>>> You just ignored that
> 
>> What, that you can't Google?
> 
> I can and do google
> 
> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what
> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine
> 
>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of beer"
>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range given
>>>>>>>> in your AI answer
> 
>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that
>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit
> 
>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range of
>>>>>> 425-450mL
> 
>>>>> Bullshit it does
> 
>>>>>> and always matches a schooner.
> 
>>>>> It doesn't say that either
> 
>>>> It says it over and over from the start:
> 
>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie
> 
>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in
>>>>  Australian slang"
>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner"
>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners"
> 
>>> Pity about
>>>
>>>        A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>>>        a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>>>        425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.
> 
>> Like the USSD definition,
> 
> There was no USSD definition
> 
>> in normal grammar the qualification at   theend would only apply to the  
>> part after the "--".
> 
> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE
> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist
> 
>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT:
> 
>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names
> 
>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes
> 
>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit
> 
>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location.
> 
>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that
>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has
>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done
> 
>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in
>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article was
>>>> what prompted your question.
> 
>>> But it did work that out. So much for your
>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty
> 
>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied   Australia-wide.
> 
>>> Bullshit it does with
> 
>> He says while snipping where it said that.
> 
>>>        A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>>>        a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>>>        425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.
> 
> Pity about the
> 
>         A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>         a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>         425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.
> 
> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted
> 
>> And replacing it with where talked about something else.
> 
> Bullshit it talked about something else
> 
>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could be way
>>>>>> off.
> 
>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used
> 
>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for the  
>>>>> NT
> 
>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's
>>>> source is... nothing.
> 
>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit  
>>> artist
> 
>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that
>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy
>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got
>>>> the info from.
> 
>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the SOURCES
> 
>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions,
> 
> More of your barefaced lies on the random
> 
>> which it probably  paid attention to insteadof   better results like the  
>> brewery I found.
> 
> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same
> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml

No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT, and for the
same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other sates. Plus it
didn't know where you were asking about anyway so shouldn't assume
what it "normally means" there.

You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your
question:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466

So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found
the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here:

https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf

Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest:

"6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume."

So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meant in the exact
article that prompted your question! Its total quantity would be
off by at least 2.52L!

An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the
actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your
question, instead of that useless AI BS.

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