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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
| Subject | Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour |
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
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| Date | 2026-04-26 07:54 +1000 |
| Organization | Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> path >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just did this one, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You just ignored that > >>>>>>>>>>>> What, that you can't Google? > >>>>>>>>>>> I can and do google > >>>>>>>>>>> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what >>>>>>>>>>> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine > >>>>>>>>> There you go, ignoring that again > >>>>>>>> Yep. > >>>>>>> Because even you realise that you can never >>>>>>> bullshit your way out of that terminal stupidity > >>>>>> Nope. > >>>>> Yep > >>>> Glad you agree. > >>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in your AI answer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range of 425-450mL > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and always matches a schooner. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't say that either > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It says it over and over from the start: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australian slang" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners" > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity about > >>>>>>>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> state. > >>>>>>> Even you realise that you can never >>>>>>> bullshit your way out of that stupid lie > >>>>>> Umm, That was your AI's lie. > >>>>> You haven't shown that it is a lie > >>>> Only a blind man couldn't see what I've shown, or one of your >>>> Artificial Idiots. > >>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag > >>>>>> But I'm glad you finally agree it was telling you BS. > >>>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage > >>>> Well yes, you are a bit. > >>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something > >>>>>>>>>>>> Like the USSD definition, > >>>>>>>>>>> There was no USSD definition > >>>>>>>>>>>> in normal grammar the qualification at the end would only apply >>>>>>>>>>>> to the part after the "--". > >>>>>>>>>>> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE >>>>>>>>>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names > >>>>>>>>> That doesnt even say what the volume of a handle of beer is > >>>>>>>> 285ml in the NT like I quoted before. > >>>>>>> Pity we aren't discussing the NT, as I told you before > >>>>>> Your AI didn't know that. > >>>>> Corse it did when it mentioned Flinders Island > >>>> But you didn't, to it. > >>> Didn't need to, it worked that out for itself > >>>>>>>> It also says this which would >>>>>>>> suggest such terms also mean less than the 425ml for a schooner >>>>>>>> elsewhere in Aus: > >>>>>>>> "By and large, jugs, pints and schooners are a pretty universally >>>>>>>> understood size (except in SA), with most of the smaller options >>>>>>>> often having a name unique to the region." > >>>>>>> That suggests nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a >>>>>>> bullshit artist > >>>>>> Smaller options have the names "unique to the region" such as >>>>>> handle. > >>>>> It doesn't say that about the word handle, you pathetic excuse for a >>>>> bullshit artist and NO ONE serves options in a container with a handle > >>>> It's about the quantity, the article actually only says they "may >>>> come with a handle", > >>> Not with that particular volume they don't > >>>> but if you ever got out you'd have seenbeer glases with handles >>>> before anyway. > >>> Not with that particular volume they don't > >>>> It's hillarious how wrong you are, > >>> We'll see... > >>>> here's one with "285ml" actually printed on the side! > >>>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/306586746914 > >>> Pity that says VINTAGE. > >> Wow, your arguments have got even weaker than your AI's nonsense. > > You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag > >> That's just too cute to dispute. > > You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag > >>>>>>>>> And neither does anything else that google turns up > >>>>>>> Which blows a fucking great hole in your stupid >>>>>>> claim that google gets it right and grok doesn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> article >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was what prompted your question. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But it did work that out. So much for your >>>>>>>>>>>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied Australia-wide. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does with > >>>>>>>>>>>> He says while snipping where it said that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> state. > >>>>>>>>>>> Pity about the > >>>>>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the >>>>>>>>>>> state. > >>>>>>>>>>> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted > >>>>>>>>>>>> And replacing it with where talked about something else. > >>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it talked about something else > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be way off. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the NT > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idiot's source is... nothing. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a >>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit artist > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accuracy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> got the info from. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the >>>>>>>>>>>>> SOURCES > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions, > >>>>>>>>>>> More of your barefaced lies on the random > >>>>>>>>>>>> which it probably paid attention to instead of better results >>>>>>>>>>>> like the brewery I found. > >>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same >>>>>>>>>>> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml > >>>>>>>>>> No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT, > >>>>>>>>> Which isnt where we are discussing, >>>>>>>>> so is a completely useless result > >>>>>>>>>> and for the same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other >>>>>>>>>> sates. > >>>>>>>>>> Plus it didn't know where you were asking about anyway > >>>>>>>>> Corse it did when it named that explicitly > >>>>>>>>>> so shouldn't assume what it "normally means" there. > >>>>>>>>> It didn't assume anything you pathetic excuse for a bullshit >>>>>>>>> artist > >>>>>>>> It assumed everything, and clearly got it all wrong. > >>>>>>> It didnt get where the term handle was used >>>>>>> wrong, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>>>> Did so too. > >>>>> How odd that you can't prove that > >>>> Did so too. > >>> Bullshit you ever did > >>>>>>> And you haven't extablished that the term >>>>>>> handle isnt mostly used for 425-450 ml either > >>>>>> Did so too. > >>>>> How odd that you can't prove that > >>>> Did so too. > >>> Bullshit you ever did > >>>>>>>>>> You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your >>>>>>>>>> question: > >>>>>>>>> It clearly did > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466 > >>>>>>>>>> So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found >>>>>>>>>> the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here: > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf > >>>>>>>>>> Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest: > >>>>>>>>>> "6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume." > >>>>>>>>> Just because that fuckwit got that wrong... > >>>>>>>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle > >>>>>>> Have fun listing anywhere that does > >>>>>> Furneaux Tavern where David Bailey was served, of course! > >>>>> You don't know that you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>> The coroner knows it. > >>> Nope, just ignorantly CLAIMS that > >> So if you only believe AI BS, > > There is no bullshit, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >> why believe anything else they claim? > > Because I haven't seen AI get anything wrong It was the coroner claiming that, same as everything else in the article you read. >>>>>>>>>> So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meantin the >>>>>>>>>> exact article that prompted your question! > >>>>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit > >>>>>>>>>> Its total quantity would be off by at least 2.52L! > >>>>>>>>> Wrong, as always > >>>>>>>>>> An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the >>>>>>>>>> actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your >>>>>>>>>> question, instead of that useless AI BS. > >>>>>>>>> The fuckwit coroner actually got it wrong >>>>>>>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle > >>>>>>>> Hillarious! > >>>>>>> Pathetic!! > >>>>>> Well yes, you are a bit. > >>>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage > >>>> Well yes, you are a bit. > >>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something > >>>>>>>> You had to ask what a handle of beer is, > >>>>>>> Because I had never heard that term >>>>>>> used before for a measure of beer. > >>>>>>> The only thing that comes even close is >>>>>>> a stein or a jug of beer, both of which I >>>>>>> have heard plenty of times before > >>>>>> So obviously the brewery > >>>>> The brewery says nothing of the sort >>>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>> You've clearly forgotten what the brewery said at this point. > >>> It never says that you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>>>> and coroner know more than you, > >>>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage > >>>>>> and as usual the AI doesn't know anything. > >>>>> Neither does google you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>>>>>> but now you're denying what a brewery, > >>>>>>> It never says that that term is used in Flinders Island > >>>>>>>> and the coroner who first used the phrase, > >>>>>>> And got it wrong and even google proves that > >>>>>> They used the phrase and defined it, > >>>>> With not a shred of evidence that their definition is correct > >>>>>> nothing on Google's going to prove they meant something else. > >>>>> But not a shred of evidence that they got it right > >>>> Where's your AI's shred of evidence they meant 425-450ml instead >>>> of 285ml like they said? > >>> Its in the SOURCES, fuckwit > >> The SOURCES won't tell you what the coroner was thinking when they >> said that. > > That wasnt about what the coroner meant, > its what the TAVERN meant when they told > the coroner how much he had drank They clearly said he drank 18 285ml "handles". >>>>>>>> both say it means. On the basis of an AI response which doesn't >>>>>>>> even say specificially where it got its definition from. > >>>>>>> More of your stupid bare faced lies with the SOURCES > >>>>>> No evidence which of those it paid attention to, if any. > >>>>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage > >>>> Well yes, you are a bit. > >>> Even more pathetic than you usually manage and that's saying something > >>>>>>> And the coroner and stoneandwood doesn't either > >>>>>> They're trustworthy sources themselves, > >>>>> Mindless bullshit with the coroner's claim >>>>> which can't be substantiated anywhere > >>>> Their claim about the meaning of what they said themselves? > >>> Yep, they just claim that and never say where they got that > >> So there was no point to you reading the article that prompted your >> question to the AI, since it was all just repeating the coroner's >> claims anyway. > > It is in fact doing nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a > bullshit artist No doubt you're too lazy to read though the coroner's report and see it has all the information that the article used. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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