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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour |
| Date | 2026-04-23 17:04 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <op.3n70lmptbyq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink) |
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just did this one, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google >>>>>>>> You just ignored that >>>>>>> What, that you can't Google? >>>>>> I can and do google >>>>>> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what >>>>>> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine >>>> There you go, ignoring that again >>> Yep. >> Because even you realise that you can never >> bullshit your way out of that terminal stupidity > Nope. Yep >>>>>>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of >>>>>>>>>>>>> beer" >>>>>>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range >>>>>>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>>>>>> in your AI answer >>>>>>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that >>>>>>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit >>>>>>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range >>>>>>>>>>> of 425-450mL >>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does >>>>>>>>>>> and always matches a schooner. >>>>>>>>>> It doesn't say that either >>>>>>>>> It says it over and over from the start: >>>>>>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie >>>>>>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in >>>>>>>>> Australian slang" >>>>>>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner" >>>>>>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners" >>>>>>>> Pity about >>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. >> Even you realise that you can never >> bullshit your way out of that stupid lie > Umm, That was your AI's lie. You haven't shown that it is a lie > But I'm glad you finally agree it was telling you BS. Even more pathetic than you usually manage >>>>>>> Like the USSD definition, >>>>>> There was no USSD definition >>>>>>> in normal grammar the qualification at the end would only apply to >>>>>>> the part after the "--". >>>>>> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE >>>>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>>>>>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT: >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names >>>> That doesnt even say what the volume of a handle of beer is >>> 285ml in the NT like I quoted before. >> Pity we aren't discussing the NT, as I told you before > Your AI didn't know that. Corse it did when it mentioned Flinders Island >>> It also says this which would >>> suggest such terms also mean less than the 425ml for a schooner >>> elsewhere in Aus: >>> "By and large, jugs, pints and schooners are a pretty universally >>> understood size (except in SA), with most of the smaller options >>> often having a name unique to the region." >> That suggests nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit >> artist > Smaller options have the names "unique to the region" such as > handle. It doesnt say that about the word handle, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist and NO ONE serves options in a container with a handle >>>> And neither does anything else that google turns up >> Which blows a fucking great hole in your stupid >> claim that google gets it right and grok doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes >>>>>>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit >>>>>>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location. >>>>>>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that >>>>>>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has >>>>>>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done >>>>>>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in >>>>>>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article >>>>>>>>> was what prompted your question. >>>>>>>> But it did work that out. So much for your >>>>>>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty >>>>>>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied Australia-wide. >>>>>>>> Bullshit it does with >>>>>>> He says while snipping where it said that. >>>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. >>>>>> Pity about the >>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. >>>>>> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted >>>>>>> And replacing it with where talked about something else. >>>>>> Bullshit it talked about something else >>>>>>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could >>>>>>>>>>> be way off. >>>>>>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used >>>>>>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for >>>>>>>>>> the NT >>>>>>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's >>>>>>>>> source is... nothing. >>>>>>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a >>>>>>>> bullshit artist >>>>>>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that >>>>>>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy >>>>>>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got >>>>>>>>> the info from. >>>>>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the >>>>>>>> SOURCES >>>>>>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions, >>>>>> More of your barefaced lies on the random >>>>>>> which it probably paid attention to instead of better results like >>>>>>> the brewery I found. >>>>>> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same >>>>>> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml >>>>> No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT, >>>> Which isnt where we are discussing, >>>> so is a completely useless result >>>>> and for the same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other sates. >>>>> Plus it didn't know where you were asking about anyway >>>> Corse it did when it named that explicitly >>>>> so shouldn't assume what it "normally means" there. >>>> It didn't assume anything you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>> It assumed everything, and clearly got it all wrong. >> It didnt get where the term handle was used >> wrong, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > Did so too. How odd that you can't prove that >> And you haven't extablished that the term >> handle isnt mostly used for 425-450 ml either > Did so too. How odd that you can't prove that >>>>> You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your >>>>> question: >>>> It clearly did >>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466 >>>>> So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found >>>>> the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here: >>>>> https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf >>>>> Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest: >>>>> "6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume." >>>> Just because that fuckwit got that wrong... >>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle >> Have fun listing anywhere that does > Furneaux Tavern where David Bailey was served, of course! You don't know that you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>>>> So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meantin the exact >>>>> article that prompted your question! >>>> More of your mindless bullshit >>>>> Its total quantity would be off by at least 2.52L! >>>> Wrong, as always >>>>> An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the >>>>> actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your >>>>> question, instead of that useless AI BS. >>>> The fuckwit coroner actually got it wrong >>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle >>> Hillarious! >> Pathetic!! > Well yes, you are a bit. Even more pathetic than you usually manage >>> You had to ask what a handle of beer is, >> Because I had never heard that term >> used before for a measure of beer. >> The only thing that comes even close is >> a stein or a jug of beer, both of which I >> have heard plenty of times before > So obviously the brewery The brewery says nothing of the sort you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > and coroner know more than you, Even more pathetic than you usually manage > and as usual the AI doesn't know anything. Neither does google you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>> but now you're denying what a brewery, >> It never says that that term is used in Flinders Island >>> and the coroner who first used the phrase, >> And got it wrong and even google proves that > They used the phrase and defined it, With not a shred of evidence that their definition is correct > nothing on Google's going to prove they meant something else. But not a shred of evidence that they got it right >>> both say it means. On the basis of an AI response which doesn't >>> even say specificially where it got its definition from. >> More of your stupid bare faced lies with the SOURCES > No evidence which of those it paid attention to, if any. Even more pathetic than you usually manage >> And the coroner and stoneandwood doesn't either > They're trustworthy sources themselves, Mindless bullshit with the coroner's claim which can't be substantiated anywhere > unlike random Reddit threads Nothing random about them given they all referred to beer, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > which the AI was looking through.
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