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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour |
| Date | 2026-04-23 08:21 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <op.3n7cddr8byq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink) |
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools >>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>>>>>> make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko machines >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path >>>>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>>>> the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has >>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>> hit. >>>>>>>>>>>> Just did this one, >>>>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91 >>>>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would >>>>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that >>>>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and >>>>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google >>>>>> You just ignored that >>>>> What, that you can't Google? >>>> I can and do google >>>> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what >>>> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine >> There you go, ignoring that again > Yep. Because even you realise that you can never bullshit your way out of that terminal stupidity >>>>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of >>>>>>>>>>> beer" >>>>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range >>>>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>>>> in your AI answer >>>>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that >>>>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit >>>>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range >>>>>>>>> of 425-450mL >>>>>>>> Bullshit it does >>>>>>>>> and always matches a schooner. >>>>>>>> It doesn't say that either >>>>>>> It says it over and over from the start: >>>>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie >>>>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in >>>>>>> Australian slang" >>>>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner" >>>>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners" >>>>>> Pity about >>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. Even you realise that you can never bullshit your way out of that stupid lie >>>>> Like the USSD definition, >>>> There was no USSD definition >>>>> in normal grammar the qualification at the end would only apply to >>>>> the part after the "--". >>>> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE >>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >>>>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT: >>>>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names >> That doesnt even say what the volume of a handle of beer is > 285ml in the NT like I quoted before. Pity we aren't discussing the NT, as I told you before > It also says this which would > suggest such terms also mean less than the 425ml for a schooner > elsewhere in Aus: > "By and large, jugs, pints and schooners are a pretty universally > understood size (except in SA), with most of the smaller options > often having a name unique to the region." That suggests nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist >> And neither does anything else that google turns up Which blows a fucking great hole in your stupid claim that google gets it right and grok doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes >>>>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit >>>>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location. >>>>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that >>>>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has >>>>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done >>>>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in >>>>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article was >>>>>>> what prompted your question. >>>>>> But it did work that out. So much for your >>>>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty >>>>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied Australia-wide. >>>>>> Bullshit it does with >>>>> He says while snipping where it said that. >>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. >>>> Pity about the >>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. >>>> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted >>>>> And replacing it with where talked about something else. >>>> Bullshit it talked about something else >>>>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could be >>>>>>>>> way off. >>>>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used >>>>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for >>>>>>>> the NT >>>>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's >>>>>>> source is... nothing. >>>>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit >>>>>> artist >>>>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that >>>>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy >>>>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got >>>>>>> the info from. >>>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the SOURCES >>>>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions, >>>> More of your barefaced lies on the random >>>>> which it probably paid attention to instead of better results like >>>>> the brewery I found. >>>> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same >>>> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml >>> No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT, >> Which isnt where we are discussing, >> so is a completely useless result >>> and for the same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other sates. >>> Plus it didn't know where you were asking about anyway >> Corse it did when it named that explicitly >>> so shouldn't assume what it "normally means" there. >> It didn't assume anything you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > It assumed everything, and clearly got it all wrong. It didnt get where the term handle was used wrong, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist And you haven't extablished that the term handle isnt mostly used for 425-450 ml either >>> You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your >>> question: >> It clearly did >>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466 >>> So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found >>> the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here: >>> https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf >>> Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest: >>> "6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume." >> Just because that fuckwit got that wrong... >> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle Have fun listing anywhere that does >>> So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meantin the exact >>> article that prompted your question! >> More of your mindless bullshit >>> Its total quantity would be off by at least 2.52L! >> Wrong, as always >>> An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the >>> actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your >>> question, instead of that useless AI BS. >> The fuckwit coroner actually got it wrong >> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle > Hillarious! Pathetic!! > You had to ask what a handle of beer is, Because I had never heard that term used before for a measure of beer. The only thing that comes even close is a stein or a jug of beer, both of which I have heard plenty of times before > but now you're denying what a brewery, It never says that that term is used in Kangaroo Island > and the coroner who first used the phrase, And got it wrong and even google proves that > both say it means. On the basis of an AI response which doesn't > even say specificially where it got its definition from. More of your stupid bare faced lies with the SOURCES And the coroner and stoneandwood doesn't either
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