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| From | Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> |
| Subject | Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour |
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
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| Date | 2026-04-23 13:50 +1000 |
| Organization | Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko machines >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path >>>>>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hit. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just did this one, >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would >>>>>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that >>>>>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and >>>>>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google > >>>>>>> You just ignored that > >>>>>> What, that you can't Google? > >>>>> I can and do google > >>>>> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what >>>>> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine > >>> There you go, ignoring that again > >> Yep. > > Because even you realise that you can never > bullshit your way out of that terminal stupidity Nope. >>>>>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of >>>>>>>>>>>> beer" >>>>>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range >>>>>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>>>>> in your AI answer > >>>>>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that >>>>>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit > >>>>>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range >>>>>>>>>> of 425-450mL > >>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does > >>>>>>>>>> and always matches a schooner. > >>>>>>>>> It doesn't say that either > >>>>>>>> It says it over and over from the start: > >>>>>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie > >>>>>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in >>>>>>>> Australian slang" > >>>>>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner" > >>>>>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners" > >>>>>>> Pity about > >>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. > > Even you realise that you can never > bullshit your way out of that stupid lie Umm, That was your AI's lie. But I'm glad you finally agree it was telling you BS. >>>>>> Like the USSD definition, > >>>>> There was no USSD definition > >>>>>> in normal grammar the qualification at the end would only apply to >>>>>> the part after the "--". > >>>>> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE >>>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>>>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT: > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names > >>> That doesnt even say what the volume of a handle of beer is > >> 285ml in the NT like I quoted before. > > Pity we aren't discussing the NT, as I told you before Your AI didn't know that. >> It also says this which would >> suggest such terms also mean less than the 425ml for a schooner >> elsewhere in Aus: > >> "By and large, jugs, pints and schooners are a pretty universally >> understood size (except in SA), with most of the smaller options >> often having a name unique to the region." > > That suggests nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit > artist Smaller options have the names "unique to the region" such as handle. >>> And neither does anything else that google turns up > > Which blows a fucking great hole in your stupid > claim that google gets it right and grok doesn't > >>>>>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes > >>>>>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit > >>>>>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location. > >>>>>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that >>>>>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has >>>>>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done > >>>>>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in >>>>>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article was >>>>>>>> what prompted your question. > >>>>>>> But it did work that out. So much for your >>>>>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty > >>>>>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied Australia-wide. > >>>>>>> Bullshit it does with > >>>>>> He says while snipping where it said that. > >>>>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. > >>>>> Pity about the > >>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. > >>>>> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted > >>>>>> And replacing it with where talked about something else. > >>>>> Bullshit it talked about something else > >>>>>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could be >>>>>>>>>> way off. > >>>>>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used > >>>>>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for >>>>>>>>> the NT > >>>>>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's >>>>>>>> source is... nothing. > >>>>>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit >>>>>>> artist > >>>>>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that >>>>>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy >>>>>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got >>>>>>>> the info from. > >>>>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the SOURCES > >>>>>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions, > >>>>> More of your barefaced lies on the random > >>>>>> which it probably paid attention to instead of better results like >>>>>> the brewery I found. > >>>>> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same >>>>> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml > >>>> No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT, > >>> Which isnt where we are discussing, >>> so is a completely useless result > >>>> and for the same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other sates. > >>>> Plus it didn't know where you were asking about anyway > >>> Corse it did when it named that explicitly > >>>> so shouldn't assume what it "normally means" there. > >>> It didn't assume anything you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >> It assumed everything, and clearly got it all wrong. > > It didnt get where the term handle was used > wrong, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist Did so too. > And you haven't extablished that the term > handle isnt mostly used for 425-450 ml either Did so too. >>>> You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your >>>> question: > >>> It clearly did > >>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466 > >>>> So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found >>>> the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here: > >>>> https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf > >>>> Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest: > >>>> "6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume." > >>> Just because that fuckwit got that wrong... > >>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle > > Have fun listing anywhere that does Furneaux Tavern where David Bailey was served, of course! >>>> So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meantin the exact >>>> article that prompted your question! > >>> More of your mindless bullshit > >>>> Its total quantity would be off by at least 2.52L! > >>> Wrong, as always > >>>> An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the >>>> actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your >>>> question, instead of that useless AI BS. > >>> The fuckwit coroner actually got it wrong >>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle > >> Hillarious! > > Pathetic!! Well yes, you are a bit. >> You had to ask what a handle of beer is, > > Because I had never heard that term > used before for a measure of beer. > > The only thing that comes even close is > a stein or a jug of beer, both of which I > have heard plenty of times before So obviously the brewery and coroner know more than you, and as usual the AI doesn't know anything. >> but now you're denying what a brewery, > > It never says that that term is used in Kangaroo Island Wrong island. >> and the coroner who first used the phrase, > > And got it wrong and even google proves that They used the phrase and defined it, nothing on Google's going to prove they meant something else. >> both say it means. On the basis of an AI response which doesn't >> even say specificially where it got its definition from. > > More of your stupid bare faced lies with the SOURCES No evidence which of those it paid attention to, if any. > And the coroner and stoneandwood doesn't either They're trustworthy sources themselves, unlike random Reddit threads which the AI was looking through. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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