Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour
Date	2026-04-17 09:27 +1000
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools have no
>>>>>>>  understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't    
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>  make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko machines with
>>>>>>>  the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path between
>>>>>>>  the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has already
>>>>>>>  hit.

>>>>>> Just did this one,
>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91

>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would
>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that
>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and
>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google

You just ignored that

>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of beer"
>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range given
>>>>> in your AI answer

>>>> The grok response accurately points out that
>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit

>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range of
>>> 425-450mL

>> Bullshit it does

>>> and always matches a schooner.

>> It doesn't say that either

> It says it over and over from the start:

Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie

> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in
>  Australian slang"
> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner"
> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners"

Pity about

	A “handle” is a common term for a schooner —
	a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
	425–450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner   in the NT:

>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names

>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes

>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit

>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location.

>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that
>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has
>> been used recently, something google wouldnt have done

> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in
> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article was
> what prompted your question.

But it did work that out. So much for your
stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty

> Plus it clearly said it applied   Australia-wide.

Bullshit it does with

	A “handle” is a common term for a schooner —
	a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
	425–450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could be way
>>> off.

>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used

>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for the NT

> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's
> source is... nothing.

Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

> No cites except the very ABC article that
> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy
> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got
> the info from.

Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the SOURCES

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  Re: Testing suggests Google’s AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 10:28 +1000
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      Re: Testing suggests Google’s AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 16:04 +1000
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    Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 09:51 +1000
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        Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 09:07 +1000
    Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 14:41 +1000
      Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-15 08:43 +1000
        Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 09:10 +1000
          Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-15 09:18 +1000
            Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 09:37 +1000
              Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-17 08:17 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 09:27 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-18 08:46 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 11:49 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-22 08:37 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-22 14:47 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-23 07:37 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 08:21 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2026-04-23 13:50 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-23 17:04 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-24 09:16 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 10:41 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-25 08:20 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-25 09:40 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-26 07:54 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-26 08:47 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-04-27 09:14 +1000
                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-27 14:07 +1000

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