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| Message-ID | <69e93fb0@news.ausics.net> (permalink) |
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
| Subject | Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour |
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
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| Date | 2026-04-23 07:37 +1000 |
| Organization | Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net |
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: > Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools have >>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>> understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't >>>>>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>>>>> make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko machines >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path >>>>>>>>>>>> between >>>>>>>>>>>> the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has >>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>> hit. > >>>>>>>>>>> Just did this one, >>>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91 > >>>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would >>>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that >>>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and >>>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google > >>>>> You just ignored that > >>>> What, that you can't Google? > >>> I can and do google > >>> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what >>> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine > > There you go, ignoring that again Yep. >>>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of beer" >>>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range given >>>>>>>>>> in your AI answer > >>>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that >>>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit > >>>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range of >>>>>>>> 425-450mL > >>>>>>> Bullshit it does > >>>>>>>> and always matches a schooner. > >>>>>>> It doesn't say that either > >>>>>> It says it over and over from the start: > >>>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie > >>>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in >>>>>> Australian slang" > >>>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner" > >>>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners" > >>>>> Pity about > >>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. > >>>> Like the USSD definition, > >>> There was no USSD definition > >>>> in normal grammar the qualification at theend would only apply to the >>>> part after the "--". > >>> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE >>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist > >>>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT: > >>>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names > > That doesnt even say what the volume of a handle of beer is 285ml in the NT like I quoted before. It also says this which would suggest such terms also mean less than the 425ml for a schooner elsewhere in Aus: "By and large, jugs, pints and schooners are a pretty universally understood size (except in SA), with most of the smaller options often having a name unique to the region." > And neither does anything else that google turns up > >>>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes > >>>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit > >>>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location. > >>>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that >>>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has >>>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done > >>>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in >>>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article was >>>>>> what prompted your question. > >>>>> But it did work that out. So much for your >>>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty > >>>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied Australia-wide. > >>>>> Bullshit it does with > >>>> He says while snipping where it said that. > >>>>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>>>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>>>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. > >>> Pity about the > >>> A "handle" is a common term for a schooner -- >>> a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around >>> 425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state. > >>> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted > >>>> And replacing it with where talked about something else. > >>> Bullshit it talked about something else > >>>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could be >>>>>>>> way off. > >>>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used > >>>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for the >>>>>>> NT > >>>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's >>>>>> source is... nothing. > >>>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit >>>>> artist > >>>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that >>>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy >>>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got >>>>>> the info from. > >>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the SOURCES > >>>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions, > >>> More of your barefaced lies on the random > >>>> which it probably paid attention to instead of better results like the >>>> brewery I found. > >>> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same >>> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml > >> No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT, > > Which isnt where we are discussing, > so is a completely useless result > >> and for the same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other sates. > >> Plus it didn't know where you were asking about anyway > > Corse it did when it named that explicitly > >> so shouldn't assume what it "normally means" there. > > It didn't assume anything you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist It assumed everything, and clearly got it all wrong. >> You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your question: > > It clearly did > >> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466 > >> So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found >> the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here: > >> https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf > >> Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest: > >> "6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume." > > Just because that fuckwit got that wrong... > > No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle > >> So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meantin the exact >> article that prompted your question! > > More of your mindless bullshit > >> Its total quantity would be off by at least 2.52L! > > Wrong, as always > >> An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the >> actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your >> question, instead of that useless AI BS. > > The fuckwit coroner actually got it wrong > No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle Hillarious! You had to ask what a handle of beer is, but now you're denying what a brewery, and the coroner who first used the phrase, both say it means. On the basis of an AI response which doesn't even say specificially where it got its definition from. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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