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Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour

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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  hit.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just did this one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google

>>>>>>>> You just ignored that

>>>>>>> What, that you can't Google?

>>>>>> I can and do google

>>>>>> No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what
>>>>>> you would get from a glorified pachinko machine

>>>> There you go, ignoring that again

>>> Yep.

>> Because even you realise that you can never
>> bullshit your way out of that terminal stupidity

> Nope.

Yep

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range
>>>>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in your AI answer

>>>>>>>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit

>>>>>>>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range
>>>>>>>>>>> of 425-450mL

>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does

>>>>>>>>>>> and always matches a schooner.

>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't say that either

>>>>>>>>> It says it over and over from the start:

>>>>>>>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie

>>>>>>>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in
>>>>>>>>>  Australian slang"

>>>>>>>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner"

>>>>>>>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners"

>>>>>>>> Pity about

>>>>>>>>        A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>>>>>>>>        a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>>>>>>>>        425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

>> Even you realise that you can never
>> bullshit your way out of that stupid lie

> Umm, That was your AI's lie.

You haven't shown that it is a lie

> But I'm glad you finally agree it was   telling you BS.

Even more pathetic than you usually manage

>>>>>>> Like the USSD definition,

>>>>>> There was no USSD definition

>>>>>>> in normal grammar the qualification at the end would only apply to
>>>>>>> the   part after the "--".

>>>>>> Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE
>>>>>> you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

>>>>>>>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names

>>>> That doesnt even say what the volume of a handle of beer is

>>> 285ml in the NT like I quoted before.

>> Pity we aren't discussing the NT, as I told you before

> Your AI didn't know that.

Corse it did when it mentioned Flinders Island

>>> It also says this which would
>>> suggest such terms also mean less than the 425ml for a schooner
>>> elsewhere in Aus:

>>> "By and large, jugs, pints and schooners are a pretty universally
>>>  understood size (except in SA), with most of the smaller options
>>>  often having a name unique to the region."

>> That suggests nothing of the sort, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit
>> artist

> Smaller options have the names "unique to the region" such as
> handle.

It doesnt say that about the word handle, you pathetic excuse for a
bullshit artist and NO ONE serves options in a container with a handle

>>>> And neither does anything else that google turns up

>> Which blows a fucking great hole in your stupid
>> claim that google gets it right and grok doesn't

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes

>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit

>>>>>>>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location.

>>>>>>>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that
>>>>>>>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has
>>>>>>>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done

>>>>>>>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in
>>>>>>>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article  
>>>>>>>>> was   what prompted your question.

>>>>>>>> But it did work that out. So much for your
>>>>>>>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty

>>>>>>>>> Plus it clearly said it applied Australia-wide.

>>>>>>>> Bullshit it does with

>>>>>>> He says while snipping where it said that.

>>>>>>>>        A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>>>>>>>>        a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>>>>>>>>        425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

>>>>>> Pity about the

>>>>>>         A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>>>>>>         a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>>>>>>         425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

>>>>>> Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted

>>>>>>> And replacing it with where talked about something else.

>>>>>> Bullshit it talked about something else

>>>>>>>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could  
>>>>>>>>>>> be   way off.

>>>>>>>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used

>>>>>>>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for
>>>>>>>>>> the   NT

>>>>>>>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's
>>>>>>>>> source is... nothing.

>>>>>>>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a  
>>>>>>>> bullshit   artist

>>>>>>>>> No cites except the very ABC article that
>>>>>>>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy
>>>>>>>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got
>>>>>>>>> the info from.

>>>>>>>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the  
>>>>>>>> SOURCES

>>>>>>> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions,

>>>>>> More of your barefaced lies on the random

>>>>>>> which it probably paid attention to instead of better results like
>>>>>>> the     brewery I found.

>>>>>> Bullshit it did and it basically said the same
>>>>>> thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml

>>>>> No, it only talked about the term being used in the NT,

>>>> Which isnt where we are discussing,
>>>> so is a completely useless result

>>>>> and for the same 285ml quanity as a "middy" or "pot" in other sates.

>>>>> Plus it didn't know where you were asking about anyway

>>>> Corse it did when it named that explicitly

>>>>> so shouldn't assume what it "normally means" there.

>>>> It didn't assume anything you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

>>> It assumed everything, and clearly got it all wrong.

>> It didnt get where the term handle was used
>> wrong, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

> Did so too.

How odd that you can't prove that

>> And you haven't extablished that the term
>> handle isnt mostly used for 425-450 ml either

> Did so too.

How odd that you can't prove that

>>>>> You say it did correctly pick the article that prompted your
>>>>> question:

>>>> It clearly did

>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/pedestrian-death-flinders-island-coroner-dismissal/106562466

>>>>> So I did a web search for "coronial findings tasmania" and found
>>>>> the actual coroner's report that had prompted the article here:

>>>>> https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/coronerscourt/findings/coronialfindings/2026/Investigation-into-the-death-of-David-Stanley-Bailey-Ruling.pdf

>>>>> Footnote number 6, on page 3, is of interest:

>>>>> "6 A handle of beer is 285mls in volume."

>>>> Just because that fuckwit got that wrong...

>>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle

>> Have fun listing anywhere that does

> Furneaux Tavern where David Bailey was served, of course!

You don't know that you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

>>>>> So your Artificial Idiot lied about the quantity meantin the exact
>>>>> article that prompted your question!

>>>> More of your mindless bullshit

>>>>> Its total quantity would be off by at least 2.52L!

>>>> Wrong, as always

>>>>> An intelligent web search on the other hand helps get you the
>>>>> actual answer from the source of the article that prompted your
>>>>> question, instead of that useless AI BS.

>>>> The fuckwit coroner actually got it wrong
>>>> No one serves 285mls of beer in a glass with a handle

>>> Hillarious!

>> Pathetic!!

> Well yes, you are a bit.

Even more pathetic than you usually manage

>>> You had to ask what a handle of beer is,

>> Because I had never heard that term
>> used before for a measure of beer.

>> The only thing that comes even close is
>> a stein or a jug of beer, both of which I
>> have heard plenty of times before

> So obviously the brewery

The brewery says nothing of the sort
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

> and coroner know more than you,

Even more pathetic than you usually manage

> and as   usual the AI doesn't know anything.

Neither does google you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

>>> but now you're   denying what a brewery,

>> It never says that that term is used in Flinders Island

>>> and the coroner who first used the phrase,

>> And got it wrong and even google proves that

> They used the phrase and defined it,

With not a shred of evidence that their definition is correct

> nothing on Google's going to   prove they meant something else.

But not a shred of evidence that they got it right

>>> both say it means. On the basis of an AI response which doesn't
>>> even say specificially where it got its definition from.

>> More of your stupid bare faced lies with the SOURCES

> No evidence which of those it paid attention to, if any.

Even more pathetic than you usually manage

>> And the coroner and stoneandwood doesn't either

> They're trustworthy sources themselves,

Mindless bullshit with the coroner's claim
which can't be substantiated anywhere

> unlike random Reddit   threads

Nothing random about them given they all referred
to beer, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

> which the AI was looking through.

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