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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: spreadsheet ergonomics
Date 2017-04-05 22:52 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <ahzjb3ga.y@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/5/17, 3:05 PM, in article avb990q2.bvh3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
> ...
>>>> There's no functional difference between "sheets" and "tables."  They are
>>>> just labels for particular implementations of spreadsheet functionality,
>>>> with only slight differences in presentation.  It's all just tabular
>>>> data with numeric capabilities.
>>> 
>>> You are speaking in terms of sc and not in general, right? If so, thanks.
>>> Even for MS Office they are pretty much the same (though not always), but in
>>> Numbers they are very different and it is common to have more than one table
>>> per sheet (and more than one sheet per file, and more than one file per
>>> window though the use of tabs).
>> 
>> That's all presentation.  How are tables and sheets "very different"?
>> For that matter, how are they different in any way?
> 
> A sheet can have zero, one, or more tables. Again, this is in Numbers... not
> saying it should in sc, but as we compare the two we need to realize we mean
> different things by "sheets" but mostly the same by "tables".
> 

That's all presentation.  Nothing to do with functionality.


> Without making a new video to go into details, look at what I already
> posted:
> 
>     <https://youtu.be/VzVKlou6byU>
> 
> The five tables I am working with: Range, Time, Force, Mana, and Total
> 
> All of those are on one sheet: Kids RPG Rules - Magic System
> 

All of those "tables" could have their functionality duplicated
anywhere on the sheet.


> ...
> 
>> Other than positioning and presentation, what is the difference between
>> a table and a sheet in Numbers?
> 
> A sheet need not have a table at all... where a table, well, always has a
> table. :)
> 

So you can't name a functional difference.

> It is sort of like asking what the difference is between text and a word
> processor: a word processor can handle text (and more, including images and
> one or more text boxes) but you can also have text in other type of programs
> (text editors, spread sheets, web browsers, etc.).
> 

No it's not.  A word processor actually does more with the text, the data.
A table has no less or more capability with the data than does a sheet.
They both do the exact same thing.

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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 08:59 -0700
  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 00:14 +0000
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 17:33 -0700
      Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 01:46 +0000
        Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-02 19:24 -0700
          Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 04:53 +0000
            Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 10:20 -0700
              Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 19:40 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 14:17 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 21:24 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 14:32 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 02:15 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 19:24 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 02:39 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 20:35 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 04:15 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 21:31 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 05:01 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 08:51 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 13:56 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 21:12 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 14:53 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 22:42 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 18:08 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 01:49 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 18:57 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 02:15 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:46 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 20:51 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 04:03 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:30 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 15:02 -0700
          Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 10:53 -0700
            Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 19:38 +0000
              Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 13:01 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 20:54 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 14:16 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 02:30 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 20:26 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 04:45 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 09:29 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 20:49 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 14:20 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 22:38 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 18:05 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 01:14 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 18:41 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 02:05 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:27 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 03:59 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 21:32 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 05:23 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 08:30 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 20:39 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 15:01 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 00:08 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 18:23 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 01:46 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 18:54 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 02:01 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 19:08 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-04-06 05:51 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 14:39 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-04-07 23:02 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 16:33 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-08 00:09 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-04-10 00:40 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-06 09:00 -0700
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 04:14 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 21:33 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 05:08 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 08:23 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:06 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 14:57 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 22:05 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 15:25 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 22:52 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 16:15 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 00:12 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 18:14 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 01:34 +0000
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 01:54 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 19:03 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 09:03 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 09:43 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-08 00:24 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 18:15 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-08 01:41 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 18:58 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-08 02:11 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 20:46 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 21:20 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-08 05:57 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 23:12 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-08 06:23 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-07 23:44 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-04-08 07:33 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-08 00:47 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 10:28 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-09 14:00 -0400
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 11:09 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-09 11:25 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-04-09 22:01 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-09 15:40 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 15:48 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-09 22:30 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-09 15:42 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 08:45 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-10 16:46 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 09:58 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-10 19:07 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 12:25 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 12:36 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Mark Garcia <markymark1901z@yahoo.com> - 2017-04-10 19:44 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 13:00 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 12:25 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-10 19:35 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 12:37 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-10 19:47 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 12:57 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 13:04 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-10 20:17 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 13:27 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-10 20:43 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 13:55 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-10 22:36 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 10:00 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-10 16:10 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-10 14:18 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-10 17:01 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 09:59 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-11 12:18 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-11 10:31 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 10:43 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-11 12:50 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 12:57 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-11 15:43 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 14:40 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-11 16:50 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 15:03 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-04-12 03:09 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-11 22:38 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-04-12 04:00 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-11 17:12 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-11 10:15 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-11 12:20 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-13 08:56 -0400
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-11 10:30 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-11 06:32 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-11 09:58 -0400
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-11 09:05 -0500
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-10 12:48 -0700
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:17 +0000
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 15:15 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-06 01:49 +0000
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 19:04 -0700
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-06 09:59 -0700
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