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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: spreadsheet ergonomics |
| Date | 2017-04-04 04:15 +0000 |
| Organization | O.W.L. |
| Message-ID | <ahzub003.ag@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (8 earlier) <D5080D75.9C8B6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <lahuz003.8au33@rooftop.invalid> <D50851E0.9C986%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <a8003gq.bay@rooftop.invalid> <D508628A.9C99C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 4/3/17, 7:39 PM, in article a8003gq.bay@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 4/3/17, 7:15 PM, in article lahuz003.8au33@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>>>>> You whined about dependencies. Numbers is a dependency or the file >>>>>> is worthless. >>>>>> >>>>> Um, what? >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you do not understand the concept of dependencies? >>>> >>>> Perhaps you don't. >>> >>> Well, I am sure there are details I do not know... but with the file I am >>> speaking about you need either a modern web browser or the Numbers program. >> >> Numbers requires a Mack. So that's out. > > Actually, nope: does not require a Mac at all. > Oh. IOS. Either way, you gotta buy overpriced hardware just to run it. > But, sure, it is limited to what OSs you can use and that is a deal breaker > for many situations. No argument here. But also not on topic. > >>> Nothing more (assuming you have those things actually running on your system >>> with all that they need!) >> >> All you need with mine is an ssh client. > > Which I have. So let's test yours! > I already showed connecting remotely from a VM to the host and having the app windows display on the VM. >>>>> I mean, sure, to use a program you need that program. To use sc you are >>>>> pointing to a bunch of other programs one may very well not even have (even >>>>> on Linux). >>>> >>>> So nothing from a Linux repo qualifies as competition for a Mack app >>>> because installing it would install dependencies. OK. >>> >>> Not sure what word game you are trying to play. Can you get more specific? >> >> Can you? Why whine about dependencies unless they cannot be met? > > The point had nothing to do with about them being able to be met. Why even > bring that up? It is about the end user having to set their system up to > meet them. Two completely different things. > If this code were delivered as a repo package, the dependencies would install automatically. > Above you speak of Numbers needing macOS (which is not quite true but close > enough). Sure, that is a deal breaker for many situations. I openly admit to > the weaknesses of the solutions I talk about. I am honest. > LOL. > One thing I find interesting about Linux "advocates" is how hard it is for > them to speak of the weaknesses of their solutions... even such obvious > things as lacking the ability to have multiple tables on one sheet in a way > pretty much any user can easily create. > Granny would not be able to do it with Numbers. You have biased assumptions based on your personal experience with and preference for Mack. >>> And even with those other programs to tie into sc and support your scripts, >>> as far as I know nothing comes close to what I have shown you. Your solution >>> surely does not. >>> >> >> No looping updates required. >> https://vid.me/txC9 >> > The flickering of the "running external function" and other flashing > messages and the inability to directly manipulate the data would be annoying > for me, but if it works for you, great. > Did you watch it? I told you there is no more looping update to cause "flickering" and interfere with editing. Updates are done with magic dust now. > Care to show setting that up, from scratch, as I did with my multiple table > solution? > Why? People don't make spreadsheets just to enjoy the process of making them. But anyway, I make my by hand in vi. Here's a line count of the component files: anon@lowtide:~/code/sc$ wc -l gah1.sc 8 gah1.sc anon@lowtide:~/code/sc$ wc -l gah2.sc 8 gah2.sc anon@lowtide:~/code/sc$ wc -l gah3.sc 15 gah3.sc anon@lowtide:~/code/sc$ wc -l ud 4 ud anon@lowtide:~/code/sc$ wc -l startem 5 startem anon@lowtide:~/code/sc$ wc -l startemx 5 startemx anon@lowtide:~/code/sc$ Some lines get added at the top by sc whenever there is a write, so the actual lines I typed in are fewer. You can use startem or startemx for a choice of mate-terminals or xterms, but you don't need either one of those startup scripts. All they basically do is add a title to the windows and set initial screen position.
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