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| From | Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll |
| Date | 2016-11-06 06:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno1tk3g.qs6.howard@foxtrot.local> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <e7hhe0Fpo69U2@mid.individual.net> <5813a140$0$63123$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com> <e7hnvaFrpr0U1@mid.individual.net> <5813ad89$0$18119$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com> <281020161623367306%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
On 2016-10-28, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <5813ad89$0$18119$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>, JF > Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> On 2016-10-28 15:41, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >> > Technology is constantly changing. That's a fact of life you can either >> > embrace or bitch and moan about - the choice is purely yours. >> >> Cameras still use SD cards. SD card slot removed. > > cameras use cf, cfast, xqd, sd and micro-sd. > > should apple include all of those slots? Yes, in the edge of the screen. I can see it now, chips protruding all around the screen, making it look crenelated. yeah. > the most popular camera is the iphone, which doesn't have any cards. Only by people who don't need a real camera. > some networking equipment still has serial ports and those ports have > been gone for years. I have a USB-to-serial adapter around here somewhere. Haven't used it in many years. > get a usb-c dongle. big deal. Not necessarily available yet. Have you yet seen a USB hub with only USB C ports? Soon... > it won't be long until every computer has a usb-c port and everyone is > swapping usb-c flash drives. Yep. > or just use wifi to exchange data. Already happening at times. Personally, I prefer a SD chip. >> I have no problem with the "Air" models having mininalist ports. Let the >> hipsters at Starbucks use those. But the "Pro" had differentiated itself >> by having more ports. And now that is gone. > > it's not gone. Agreed. IIRC, the Air has ONE port. ONE. The new MBPs have four. >> And getting rid of mag safe for charging marks the loss of a serious >> competitive advantage for Apple's laptops. > > and gaining an advantage by not requiring overpriced proprietary > adapters and also being able to plug in power on either side. Here, I disagree with you. The MagSafe port was a safety thing. Someone tripping over your power cord didn't cause your system to plummet to the ground. > or just get this: ><https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable> Griffin. Figures. They make good stuff.
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I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-28 11:34 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 11:53 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-28 10:08 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 13:23 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-28 17:49 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-28 15:04 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 15:08 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-28 19:41 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-28 15:56 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-28 20:15 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-28 20:31 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 20:57 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-28 22:43 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:34 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-06 06:34 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-07 09:55 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 16:23 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:40 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-06 07:29 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 07:40 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-06 06:34 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-07 10:05 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-07 11:50 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:34 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-07 12:08 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:41 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-16 07:41 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 15:50 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-17 19:58 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-17 09:32 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 20:34 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-18 13:06 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-17 23:05 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-17 23:08 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-18 07:05 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-17 23:39 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 16:42 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-15 13:49 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 10:00 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-16 11:18 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 20:32 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-07 16:44 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-07 17:12 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:50 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-15 08:54 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 20:08 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-14 13:17 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-15 13:32 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-15 09:53 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 17:18 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-16 07:39 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:11 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-16 09:24 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:49 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 04:59 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-15 09:52 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:56 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-15 22:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:10 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 14:02 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-16 12:13 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 17:45 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 18:28 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:48 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:47 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 19:30 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-18 06:51 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 07:39 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-29 10:10 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <zerbatory@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 15:21 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-28 16:06 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-29 10:05 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:44 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-06 08:11 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-07 08:57 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-28 20:37 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-29 14:23 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 07:06 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-07 09:04 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:39 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2016-10-30 14:01 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-31 09:28 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-30 17:25 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-28 22:42 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:43 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:34 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-29 02:00 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 19:46 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 15:57 -0600
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-29 17:54 -0600
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-30 01:42 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-31 01:51 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-30 01:42 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-10-28 18:55 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-28 22:50 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-29 18:59 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-10-31 21:42 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-31 23:42 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-01 11:15 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-29 10:54 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:26 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:24 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2016-10-28 17:31 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-28 15:02 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-28 21:36 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-28 22:46 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-28 17:33 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-29 10:00 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:24 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:20 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-06 19:33 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 07:37 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-06 08:06 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-07 08:47 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-06 15:25 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-06 22:21 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-07 02:27 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-07 03:10 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-06 08:02 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-07 10:08 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-07 12:08 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-07 19:36 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-08 15:53 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-08 10:58 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-09 00:22 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:54 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:03 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-10 14:25 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-10 14:27 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:52 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:02 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-08 09:14 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2016-10-28 17:20 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:42 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-28 18:58 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-28 16:10 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-28 16:53 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-28 20:05 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 17:57 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-29 18:26 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-29 18:34 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 04:16 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-29 01:45 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 17:09 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-29 01:51 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2016-10-29 10:14 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-29 13:03 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-29 14:12 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-29 14:25 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-30 01:42 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 10:44 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-30 09:23 -0700
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 12:44 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-30 20:04 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-30 17:15 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-29 20:57 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-30 03:45 +0000
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