Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll

From	Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll
Date	2016-11-14 09:34 +0000
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On 2016-11-07, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <slrno20kes.vl5.howard@foxtrot.local> Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-06, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <slrno1tk3g.qs6.howard@foxtrot.local>, Howard S Shubs
>>><howard@shubs.net> wrote:
>> If you say so.  I don't agree, but that's due to my uses.  You're not
>> going to use an iPhone's camera for taking pictures of models, or
>> serious landscape images, or many other things I shoot.  See
>> <http://flickr.com/denimadept> but you'll need to log in to see some of
>> the more interesting stuff.
>
><http://cdn-s3.si.com/images/2016-0911-Tennessee-Titans-Minnesota-Vikings-game-iphone-7-Plus-SI537_TK1_02657.jpg>

I'm assuming you mean to say that's from an iPhone.  Very nice, in
bright sunlight, not moving fast, and not too close or far away.  You'll
do much better in more situations with a physically bigger lens.


>>> sure, but how often does that actually happen? 
>
>> Depends on your environment.  If you've got to stretch a power cable
>> across an aisle or hallway or between tables, it could be
>> important.
>
> Much less likely when the battery lasts 10 hours.

Believe it when you see it.  I haven't yet, even with the 2014 model.


>> I can't speak to that.  I've used my 2009 MBP and a couple of 2014 MBPs.
>> It's never been a major issue.  It's only a real issue if you don't
>> notice and the battery gets low.
>
> If you are using the machine on your lap, or on a soft surface (like a
> bed) it is nearly impossible to keep the magsafe 2 connected.

And it's then necessary to keep track of heating.  I tend to avoid such
surfaces.


>>> another advantage with usb-c is if you plug in an external display, you
>>> don't need to connect a power adapter. the display provides power over
>>> usb-c. 
>
>> Yes, and likely burns the MBP's battery faster.
>
> What? Did you read what nospam said?

I read it backwards.  Whoops.  The concept of a monitor providing power
to a computer threw me.

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Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:40 +0000
  Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-06 07:29 +0000
    Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 07:40 +0000
  Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-06 06:34 -0400
    Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-07 10:05 +0000
      Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-07 11:50 +0000
        Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:34 +0000
      Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-07 12:08 -0500
        Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:41 +0000
          Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-16 07:41 +1100
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 15:50 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-17 19:58 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-17 09:32 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 20:34 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-18 13:06 +1300
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-17 23:05 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-17 23:08 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-18 07:05 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-17 23:39 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:46 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-18 16:30 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 13:11 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-19 17:42 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 14:22 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-20 09:01 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-21 07:30 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-20 13:33 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-21 09:52 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-20 19:22 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-21 16:18 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-19 10:30 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-19 10:13 +1300
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:39 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-18 10:23 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:48 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:02 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-19 21:20 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-19 16:52 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-20 02:55 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-19 21:59 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-20 03:26 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 14:37 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 09:31 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 09:40 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-18 18:37 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 11:03 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 07:46 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 06:55 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 16:42 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 09:48 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-19 09:45 -0500
            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-15 13:49 -0800
            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 10:00 +0000
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-16 11:18 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 20:32 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-18 10:23 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 18:08 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-19 10:31 +0000
      Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-07 16:44 -0500
        Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-07 17:12 -0500
          Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:50 +0000
            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-15 08:54 +1300
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 20:08 +0000
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-14 13:17 -0800
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-15 13:32 +1300
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-15 09:53 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 17:18 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-16 07:39 +1100
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:11 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-16 09:24 +1300
            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
        Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:49 +0000
          Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 04:59 +0000
            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-15 09:52 +0000
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:56 +0000
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-15 22:19 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:10 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 14:02 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-16 12:13 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 17:45 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 18:28 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:48 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:47 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 19:30 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-18 06:51 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 07:39 +0000

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