Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
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Date	2016-11-15 13:49 -0800
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On 2016-11-15 18:19:15 +0000, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <slrno2j1le.3g8.howard@foxtrot.local>, Howard S Shubs
> <howard@shubs.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> the most popular camera is the iphone, which doesn't have any cards.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Only by people who don't need a real camera.
>>>>> 
>>>>> the best camera is the one you have with you. nobody carries an slr
>>>>> everywhere they go.

Not since I went mirrorless with my Fujifilm X-E2, but my iPhone is 
still my camera of last resort, not my primary camera.

>>>> I have at times.  Still, that's why I got the P7800.  It's a lot easier.
>>>> But if I've got my backpack with me, my DSLR is there.  That happens if
>>>> I'm carrying my laptop.  OTOH, my F5 almost never comes with me.

I decided two years ago to lighten my burden by going mirrorless. I 
haven't used my DSLR since April.

>>> nikon f5? that's film and has long been eclipsed by digital. there's no
>>> reason to bring it anywhere. even an iphone will produce better quality
>>> results, just without the selection of lenses.
>> 
>> You get different results with film.  It depends on what you're trying
>> to do.
> 
> digital can emulate any film you want, without the fuss.

Fujifilm has some great in-camera film simulations in their X-Series, 
and for all the others there is the comprehensive list provided by 
AlienSkin. If you want something similar for the iPhone look no further 
than VSCO.

BTW: the VSCO feed has some very good examples of what can be done with 
an iPhone for those folks who want to get beyond selfies and Instagram.
<https://vsco.co/store>
<https://vsco.co/feed>

>> That's why I keep it around.  The main problem I have with the
>> F5 is that it's too fucking big for me.  I got it to replace an N80,
>> which only had 1/2EV adjustments.  Most other cameras do 1/3EV, so I
>> decided to look for a nice film camera.  I didn't think about the size
>> of the results!
> 
> try a d5. also huge.
> 
>>>>> the camera in an iphone is good enough for most situations.
>>>> 
>>>> If you say so.  I don't agree, but that's due to my uses.  You're not
>>>> going to use an iPhone's camera for taking pictures of models, or
>>>> serious landscape images, or many other things I shoot.  See
>>>> <http://flickr.com/denimadept> but you'll need to log in to see some of
>>>> the more interesting stuff.
>>> 
>>> that's not most situations and you know it.
>> 
>> It's situations *I* deal with.
> 
> you're not the masses.
> 
>>> an iphone fits in a pants pocket. an slr does not.
>> 
>> A P7800 kinda does, but I keep it in a little case.
> 
> still bigger than a phone.
> 
>>>>> people don't normally travel with a 2 pound ultra-portable laptop and
>>>>> also carry a bunch of peripherals and then connect it all together.
>>>>> chances are they don't even bother with a power adapter.
>>>> 
>>>> Likely true.  It's not aimed at people like me.
>>> 
>>> yep. it's not aimed at power users. it's aimed at people who travel or
>>> simply don't want something heavy. there are other macbooks for power
>>> users.
>> 
>> If I travelled more often than I do, maybe twice a year at most, I'd
>> probably still carry my backpack with my MBP and DSLR equipment.  It
>> depends on what's at the other end.  If the other end is not of
>> interest, I'd probably just use my HP backpack instead.
> 
> that's a lot of stuff to carry.

These days, if I want to carry a flexible photo kit I have a Domke F805 
bag for my X-E2, 3 spare batteries, a 14mm f/2.8, 35mm f/1.4, 18-55mm 
f/2.8-4.0, and a 55-200mm, along with some spare SD cards. There is 
room in a rear sleave in that bag for an iPad, no need to lug a laptop.
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Demo/IMG_1626.jpg>
That was shot with my iPhone.

However, in most cases I will just carry the camera with a single prime 
lens and an optional lens in a pocket, and of course I will have my 
iPhone for convenience.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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  Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-06 07:29 +0000
    Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 07:40 +0000
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    Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-07 10:05 +0000
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        Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:34 +0000
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                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:11 +0000
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            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
        Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:49 +0000
          Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 04:59 +0000
            Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-15 09:52 +0000
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:56 +0000
              Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-15 22:19 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:10 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 14:02 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-16 12:13 -0500
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 17:45 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 18:28 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:48 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:47 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 19:30 +0000
                Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-18 06:51 +0000
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